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[hoosiergirl]

Anyone (besides me) watching "Saving Grace" on Monday nights? I know it's cable (but basic) and I'm no prude, but I'm still surprised. And yes, I love the show (Earl's got a real battle on his hands for Grace's soul.) Love "The Closer" also.

[beekeeper]

Surprised about what Hoosiergirl?

[hoosiergirl]

That they get by with so much nudity. Last night's show was a real eye opener.

[beekeeper]

Is that the show starring Benjamin Bratt?

[Jules]

and is Benjamin Bratt the one who is nude????

[beekeeper]

Thats what I was wonderin' ... ;-) Woohoo!

[hoosiergirl]

Down, ladies. B. Bratt's new show is "The Cleaner" and it's on A&E on Tuesdays. But the nude guy on "Saving Grace" ain't bad either. I was a little concerned last night because the camera was showing more than it should have.

[beekeeper]

LOL ... rats! I'll have to check these shows out Hoosiergirl! Thanks for the tip.

[hoosiergirl]

Enjoy, Bee. If they hold true to form next week, you'll get an eye-full. Saving Grace is on at 10PM on TNT (following The Closer - another great show)

[lavender]

I saw that too hoosiergirl, my gosh if they went any further it would be pornography, lol. Holly wisely kept her short shorts on while the man was nude.

She kneeled down in front of him licking his lower body which was uncovered,(hairy), previously she had squirted mustard and ketchup all over his chest and licked it off from below the belly to the chest, (Yes, that's what they did)!

For good measure they rolled around the floor too, his bare tush highly visible.

With todays standards it will be classified a great show and receive an Emmy.

The writers may want to give The Closer with Kyra a run for their money. The Closer is the most watched cable show.

I didn't see the whole show because QVC had designers clothing on, lol.

[gemfreak]

Two of my most favorite shows!!! I WAS a bit shocked at all the nudity and sex on this week's Grace but I recorded it and zipped through the last part.....it was getting gratuitous and way too long....

I don't know how that scene furthered the story line. Looked like a reaction from female viewers tired of only seeing Holly undressed.

[Rebel_Mom]

My favorite TV night is Monday - The Closer and Saving Grace. I love these shows with their strong intelligent women in leading roles. And I do not speak just as a female -the husband loves those shows also.

[lavender]

I enjoy both shows very much also, especially because the leading actors are woman, you don't find that often on dramatic shows, woman are more often on comedies which I love also.

I just like to see woman over 35 work on TV, thank God for cable.

[Jules]

I haven't seen either of them.....do you recall what the V-chip rating is on those shows?

[beekeeper]

Not sure if there are any fans of Nip/Tuck ... but they are pretty graphic too. I remember the first time I saw the show my mouth was hanging open ... and yes, there may have been a little drool ... ;-)

[lavender]

The cable shows are able to to be more explicit with their shows, the standard network stations cannot for some reason.

[paula6956]

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Thats true... Also TV in Europe, explicit is more than norm than not...

[hoosiergirl]

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Not sure about The Closer - but Saving Grace is rated "MA" - mature adult.

Another great show is "In Plain Sight" (which got renewed for a second season). It's on USA on Sundays at 10PM - right after L&O CI. It's another show with a strong female lead.

[Jules]

Thanks, hoosiergirl : )

[lavender]

What is Saving Grace going to come up with to top last weeks show?

The promo's for The Closer looked very interesting, both shows are must see TV.


Alec Baldwin's brother Danny stars in Closer, too bad it isn't Alec, he's occasionally off the wall but I like him.

[hoosiergirl]

Sorry, Lavender - there's no one of the Baldwin family on The Closer.

Last night's "Saving Grace" was not as graphic as usual. But topping last week would have been something to see!! (or not)

[lavender]

Sorry hoosiergirl, I should have said Danny Baldwin guest stared on last night's The Closer, he played the police chief, the father of the rapist/murderer.

[GOLDEN POND]

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THEN, US CITIZENS WONDER JUST why CONSERVATIVE COUNTRIES WHICH DO not EITHER WANT/ APPRECIATE SEXUAL HYPOCRISY/SEXUAL DEGENERACY COMPLAIN ABOUT AMERICAN FILMS/TV/MUSIC, ETC!

[Rebel_Mom]

I watched The Closer last night - each episode is just excellent and the quality of the writing stays at such a high level. I also have liked Daniel Baldwin since his days on Homicide Life on the Street and hope he has overcome his substance abuse issues.

[Jules]

Wasn't he the Baldwin on Celebrity Rehab? The one that quit the show?

I can hear him now...."REHAB IS FOR QUITTERS!"

[hoosiergirl]

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THEN, US CITIZENS WONDER JUST why CONSERVATIVE COUNTRIES WHICH DO not EITHER WANT/ APPRECIATE SEXUAL HYPOCRISY/SEXUAL DEGENERACY COMPLAIN ABOUT AMERICAN FILMS/TV/MUSIC, ETC!
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That's why there's an "off" button on a television - in addition to the channel changer.