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Jinh
10-05-2008, 07:42 AM
Here's a link to Economist.com ...

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Jinh
10-05-2008, 01:25 PM
Oh, so nobody has anything to say about this?

PK...
10-05-2008, 01:47 PM
Then, by all means, they should vote for him...

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PK

Jinh
10-05-2008, 02:44 PM
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Then, by all means, they should vote for him...

;0))

PK
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So, are you saying the smartest economists in the country are wrong?

PK...
10-05-2008, 02:47 PM
Jinh....

I said what I meant....

I am not going to argue with you.... I make up my own mind, I do not march to someone else's drum...

;0))

PK

Pal
10-05-2008, 03:01 PM
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Here's a link to Economist.com ...

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I actually found this so ridiculous that I wasn't going to respond to it.

First, it's hardly fair since a majority of the "research associates" were Democrat.

Second, this statement says it all for me, lol:

Still, some said they didn’t quite know what they were rating—reasonably enough, since neither candidate has produced clear plans of his own.

Jinh
10-05-2008, 04:34 PM
We are talking about non-partisan economists here; who have read both McCain's and Obama's economic plans...

They overwhelmingly support Obama...

Jinh
10-05-2008, 04:36 PM
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Here's a link to Economist.com ...

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I actually found this so ridiculous that I wasn't going to respond to it.

First, it's hardly fair since a majority of the "research associates" were Democrat.

Second, this statement says it all for me, lol:

Still, some said they didn’t quite know what they were rating—reasonably enough, since neither candidate has produced clear plans of his own.
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Pal
10-05-2008, 04:50 PM
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We are talking about non-partisan economists here; who have read both McCain's and Obama's economic plans...

They overwhelmingly support Obama...
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What??? So sorry Jinh but did you read your own article??

It said:

"Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists. We e-mailed a questionnaire to 683 research associates.........."

Then it said:

"A total of 142 responded, of whom 46% identified themselves as Democrats, 10% as Republicans"

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! You call that non-partisan? lol??


Come on Jinh.......you can do better than this.

MacBug
10-05-2008, 05:05 PM
I was just going to post this. I thought I should read the article Jinh was referring to, to at least be open to another point of view. There are some other items in it that I question whether it really says how Jinh interpreted it.

I'd be interested if others see what I see.

PK...
10-05-2008, 05:18 PM
Well, now, maybe I will address it, too, LOL...

<<<<<......though the McCain campaign should be buoyed by the fact that 530 economists have signed a statement endorsing his plans.>>>>>

I would think so, LOL, considering that's almost 4 times the number who responded to this silly thing...

All economists are not created equal, LOL... There's a better than even chance that those responding are anything BUT the smartest economists in the country...

But that's just my opinion....

;0))

PK

Jinh
10-06-2008, 07:04 AM
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We are talking about non-partisan economists here; who have read both McCain's and Obama's economic plans...

They overwhelmingly support Obama...
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What??? So sorry Jinh but did you read your own article??

It said:

"Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists. We e-mailed a questionnaire to 683 research associates.........."

Then it said:

"A total of 142 responded, of whom 46% identified themselves as Democrats, 10% as Republicans"

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! You call that non-partisan? lol??


Come on Jinh.......you can do better than this.
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Pal, you don't mention the unaffiliated respondents...

The detailed responses are bad news for Mr McCain (the full data are available here). Eighty per cent of respondents and no fewer than 71% of those who do not cleave to either main party say Mr Obama has a better grasp of economics. Even among Republicans Mr Obama has the edge: 46% versus 23% say Mr Obama has the better grasp of the subject. “I take McCain’s word on this one,” comments James Harrigan at the University of Virginia, a reference to Mr McCain’s infamous confession that he does not know as much about economics as he should. In fairness, Mr McCain’s lower grade may in part reflect greater candour about his weaknesses. Mr Obama’s more tightly managed image leaves fewer opportunities for such unvarnished introspection.

Jules
10-06-2008, 07:21 AM
just posting to "subscribe" to this thread....

Pal
10-06-2008, 08:39 AM
There are no unbiased "unaffiliated" respondents. Everyone has a sway to one side or the other. Republicans know they're Republicans. That means the rest are closet dems.......period :)

And think about it for a second. They claim not to have ANY political affiliation?? So, are they Independents? Out of the 142 people who responded, a whopping 44% of them are independents??? Almost HALF?? I find that hard to believe.

The facts are that Independent voters have a tendency to vote Democrat.........

Monicauf
10-06-2008, 09:30 AM
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The facts are that Independent voters have a tendency to vote Democrat.........
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I cannot speak for other independent voters but for me I tend to vote Republican- the last two elections I voted for Bush, trying to remember who I voted before that and my memory is not that great

Pal
10-06-2008, 11:13 AM
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The facts are that Independent voters have a tendency to vote Democrat.........
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I cannot speak for other independent voters but for me I tend to vote Republican- the last two elections I voted for Bush, trying to remember who I voted before that and my memory is not that great
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From Huffington Post:


A major survey [pdf] seeking to identify characteristics of independent voters, conducted by the Washington Post, the Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard University, found that unaligned voters view the Democratic Party favorably by a 55-41 margin, and the Republican Party unfavorably, 55-41. Independents were asked which party they prefer on 10 different issues, and they chose the Democrats on nine issues, including healthcare, 48-20; the situation in Iraq, 44-28; global warming, 49-21; and on such social issues as abortion and gay marriage, 43-26. The only issue on which independents preferred Republicans was "the U.S. campaign against terrorism," 39 GOP, 30 Democrat.

Monicauf
10-06-2008, 11:28 AM
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From Huffington Post:


A major survey [pdf] seeking to identify characteristics of independent voters, conducted by the Washington Post, the Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard University, found that unaligned voters view the Democratic Party favorably by a 55-41 margin, and the Republican Party unfavorably, 55-41. Independents were asked which party they prefer on 10 different issues, and they chose the Democrats on nine issues, including healthcare, 48-20; the situation in Iraq, 44-28; global warming, 49-21; and on such social issues as abortion and gay marriage, 43-26. The only issue on which independents preferred Republicans was "the U.S. campaign against terrorism," 39 GOP, 30 Democrat.
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Thank you for posting this, very interesting and I agree for the most part, I definitely fall in the Republican category when it comes to terrorism and to me that trumps the social issues where I fall into the Democratic side.

Jinh
10-06-2008, 11:35 AM
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From Huffington Post:


A major survey [pdf] seeking to identify characteristics of independent voters, conducted by the Washington Post, the Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard University, found that unaligned voters view the Democratic Party favorably by a 55-41 margin, and the Republican Party unfavorably, 55-41. Independents were asked which party they prefer on 10 different issues, and they chose the Democrats on nine issues, including healthcare, 48-20; the situation in Iraq, 44-28; global warming, 49-21; and on such social issues as abortion and gay marriage, 43-26. The only issue on which independents preferred Republicans was "the U.S. campaign against terrorism," 39 GOP, 30 Democrat.
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Thank you for posting this, very interesting and I agree for the most part, I definitely fall in the Republican category when it comes to terrorism and to me that trumps the social issues where I fall into the Democratic side.
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Hi Monica...

What makes you think a Democrat would not protect you as well, if not better than a Republican? Seems to me, every time they (Democrats) have been tested, they have preformed admirably...

Pal
10-06-2008, 11:37 AM
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From Huffington Post:


A major survey [pdf] seeking to identify characteristics of independent voters, conducted by the Washington Post, the Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard University, found that unaligned voters view the Democratic Party favorably by a 55-41 margin, and the Republican Party unfavorably, 55-41. Independents were asked which party they prefer on 10 different issues, and they chose the Democrats on nine issues, including healthcare, 48-20; the situation in Iraq, 44-28; global warming, 49-21; and on such social issues as abortion and gay marriage, 43-26. The only issue on which independents preferred Republicans was "the U.S. campaign against terrorism," 39 GOP, 30 Democrat.
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Thank you for posting this, very interesting and I agree for the most part, I definitely fall in the Republican category when it comes to terrorism and to me that trumps the social issues where I fall into the Democratic side.
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I would say the only things I really disagree with the Republican party on are gay rights and stem cell research. Neither side is really making a difference for the gay community so I don't feel too bad there. And as for the stem cell research, I do believe there has to be some semblance of control but not so extreme.

Monicauf
10-06-2008, 11:38 AM
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Hi Monica...

What makes you think a Democrat would not protect you as well, if not better than a Republican? Seems to me, every time they (Democrats) have been tested, they have preformed admirably...
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Hi Jinh- I could be wrong, I don't have all the facts that you guys post, but I just feel that the Republican party has a stronger stance when it comes to military, that they feel strongly about having a strong military and that I am better protected- maybe, I am wrong, it is just a feeling/belief that I have.

Jinh
10-06-2008, 11:50 AM
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Hi Monica...

What makes you think a Democrat would not protect you as well, if not better than a Republican? Seems to me, every time they (Democrats) have been tested, they have preformed admirably...
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Hi Jinh- I could be wrong, I don't have all the facts that you guys post, but I just feel that the Republican party has a stronger stance when it comes to military, that they feel strongly about having a strong military and that I am better protected- maybe, I am wrong, it is just a feeling/belief that I have.
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Well, looking back, Truman (a Democrat) literally ended WWII, by dropping two atomic bombs on Japan...if that's not tough, I don't know what is...lol

Kennedy was an incredible foe of the communists...

Clinton went into Bosnia...he also targeted bin Laden in Afghanistan, and Saddam in Iraq...he was no wienie...lol

Honestly, I've never seen a Democrat who didn't have a backbone of steel...