Palin: 2012

[ChicagoDiva]

Sarah Palin in 2012?
by Mike Krumboltz
October 23, 2008 01:40:00 PM

355 Votes The 2008 presidential election is less than two weeks away. But that's old news. Let's talk about who's going to run in 2012, shall we?

Andrew Romano of Newsweek speculates that Gov. Sarah Palin may be gearing up for a run at the White House in four short years. The blogger acknowledges that the idea might seem a bit wacky at first glance. However, he cites several examples of Palin disagreeing with her running mate, John McCain, that support his theory. To name but a few, Gov. Palin has publicly disagreed with Sen. McCain on North Korea, gay marriage, and those oh-so-irritating robo-calls. Romano writes that it's almost as if Palin is putting herself in a position where she can say, "It wasn't my fault," should the Obama-Biden ticket prevail.

But that's not all. According to several sources within the Buzz, various Republicans are "considering" Palin as a 2012 presidential candidate. The Daily Telegraph speculates that "Ms Palin seems to be positioning herself for a long future on the national scene." The Washington Post writes: "Like her or hate her, Palin remains VERY much in the mix as a 2012 candidate."

Of course, there hasn't been any official announcement. Still, it's worth noting that searches on a possible Palin presidency are already picking up steam. We're not sure if the lookups are sincere or ironic, but "palin 2012," "sarah palin for president," and "palin for president stickers" are all making noise.

In short, 2012 may be four years away, but it's already looking like Caribou Barbie has enough buzz to make another play, should she and McCain fall short in '08.

[Novalee]

Interesting read. She also criticized Senator McCain for pulling out of Michigan, and dominated the interview with the two of them and Brian Williams. He wore many of the same expressions during that two day interview as he did in the debates, only the debate featured his opponent, not his running mate. I think what happens with the tickets is that they have to try and balance them, which means that the candidates are often at odds with the views of their running mates. It's just a more striking picture when they're seated beside each other.

[ChicagoDiva]

NBC's Chuck Todd says there's a 'tenseness' between John McCain and Sarah Palin

Today, it was NBC anchor Brian Williams’ turn to interview Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, making him the last of the network anchors to quiz the Republican vice presidential candidate. Williams conducted a joint interview with Palin and Sen. John McCain this afternoon in Ohio, and according to early reports, the news out of their exchange may be what wasn’t said.

In an on-air discussion with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews about the interview, NBC News political director Chuck Todd offered a frank assessment of what he said was an awkward tension between the two candidates and the sense of gloom that hung over the campaign.

Here's what Todd said:

There was a tenseness, between, first of all, between the two –- there’s no chemistry. I couldn’t see chemistry between John McCain and Sarah Palin. I felt as if we grabbed two people and said, "Here, sit next to each other, we’re going to conduct an interview." They’re not comfortable with each other yet. The other thing about it is you can tell they know that they’re losing. They’re drained, the entire campaign staff is drained. The two candidates seem guarded, they seem on edge. It’s not as if they were rude or anything. It’s not as if they weren’t trying to be forthcoming. It’s a negative intensity -- I don’t know how else to describe it. You’ll see, when you see the two of them together, the chemistry is not all there. You do wonder, is John McCain starting to blame her for things, blaming himself? Is she blaming him? ... But whatever it is, it’s a negative vibe that you get in that room...

I can’t emphasize enough the odd body language. I know Obama and Biden don’t have the great chemistry yet, but there seems to be some chemistry. I didn’t see any chemistry here. It very much feels forced, and you almost wonder, maybe it’s the intensity of the moment. They know they’re down, you have no sleep at night. You need that idea that you can win to keep you going. ... You almost wonder why they wanted the two of them sitting next to each other. ...

This is a very dangerous time in a campaign that is behind. They desperately need some good news, because you do wonder, is that cohesion disappearing inside, not just between the two mates, that we saw today on camera, but with the entire campaign structure?

Williams, standing next to Todd on camera, studiously avoided offering his own thoughts about the mood in the room. Instead, he told Matthews the headline out of the interview: that Palin said she would release her medical records, much to the surprise of her campaign staff.

However, a transcript released by NBC News shows that the Alaska governor left herself a little wiggle room:

WILLIAMS: Did I hear you just agree to release your medical records?

PALIN: The medical records, so be it. If that will allow some curiosity seekers perhaps to have one more thing that they either check the box off that they can find something to criticize or to rest them assured over. I'm healthy, happy, I've had five kids, that's going to be in the medical records, never seriously ill or hurt, you'll see that in the medical records if they're released.

Portions of the interview will air this evening, Thursday and Friday on the “NBC Nightly News.”

-- Matea Gold

[DKLA]

I find the following very curious..........

I'm healthy, happy, I've had five kids, that's going to be in the medical records....

Hmmm.

[ChicagoDiva]

I'm missing something whats the big deal with her medical records ?

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what the hell is so "curious" about that? You (dkla) are one of the most negative people I've read on this board. Just nasty........

[DKLA]

Just the speculation previously that maybe she didn't give birth to Trig.

Just thought it was curious how she worded it. No biggie.

[ChicagoDiva]

oh I never heard that before.

[Novalee]

Does anyone know if it's a matter of course that the medical records of all Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are released? If so, then her records are as relevent as the other three. But if not, it's ridiculous. What's so hard to believe about a 40 something woman giving birth to a child with Down's Syndrome? Isn't that why women are counselled about giving birth past 35?

[PK...]

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oh I never heard that before.
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That was one of the first.... And nastiest.... Trig was "supposedly" her grandson, fathered by her husband...... And the (understood) reason the boy has Downs....

;0))

PK

[Cindyloo]

I usually keep my calm when it comes to these campaign smears, on BOTH sides, but when I heard that story of what they said about Palin...I had myself one hell of a fit!

It's SO unnessary to say something like that..):

[ChicagoDiva]

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oh I never heard that before.
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That was one of the first.... And nastiest.... Trig was "supposedly" her grandson, fathered by her husband...... And the (understood) reason the boy has Downs....

;0))

PK
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omg what a digusting thing to say.

[beachreader]

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oh I never heard that before.
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That was one of the first.... And nastiest.... Trig was "supposedly" her grandson, fathered by her husband...... And the (understood) reason the boy has Downs....

;0))

PK
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That is just disgusting!
I had not heard that.

[Scoops]

They did the incest joke on SNL in one of the first skits...supposedly to show how ridiculous the rumors were, but still to even give it air time was awful imo.

[Pal]

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They did the incest joke on SNL in one of the first skits...supposedly to show how ridiculous the rumors were, but still to even give it air time was awful imo.
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And I can't tell you how many blogs where the comments include this kind of distasteful, classless garbage.

The hatred that exists in the democratic party by some is just depressing. We are ALL people living in this country and we've divided ourselves based on our political affiliation.

Up here in NY, I won't put a bumper sticker on my car because I'm afraid of the negativity. It's best to say nothing because some people are almost crazy with panic that Obama won't win. It's a sickness......... They talk loudly in the restaurants and they openly and proudly insult any Republican who may be with in ear shot.

It's like we aren't people to them anymore.........we're the enemy......

It's scary.

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They did the incest joke on SNL in one of the first skits...supposedly to show how ridiculous the rumors were, but still to even give it air time was awful imo.
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And I can't tell you how many blogs where the comments include this kind of distasteful, classless garbage.

The hatred that exists in the democratic party by some is just depressing. We are ALL people living in this country and we've divided ourselves based on our political affiliation.

Up here in NY, I won't put a bumper sticker on my car because I'm afraid of the negativity. It's best to say nothing because some people are almost crazy with panic that Obama won't win. It's a sickness......... They talk loudly in the restaurants and they openly and proudly insult any Republican who may be with in ear shot.

It's like we aren't people to them anymore.........we're the enemy......

It's scary.
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Sorry to hear that Pal....even though I am in the middle of Dem country, I have experienced nothing like that....I have been tailgated on side streets a couple of times recently, but I don't dare attribute it to my stickers, lol.

My town has a lot of Republicans...more dems, but still a lot of Republicans and unregistered. My end of town is where more of the Republicans live...don't know why...just seems to have worked out that way.

[SavhLaney]

Birds of a feather flock together. :)

I see McCain/Palin bumper stickers in my neighborhood, but not a single Obama.

[Susan]

Wow, I had definitely heard the rumors about Trig being Bristol's biological child, but not that Todd had fathered him. That is just gross. I think the rumors about Sarah being the grandma rather than the mom took off because Sarah didn't announce her pregnancy for so long and then didn't look pregnant to many people. Then the fact that she flew from Texas to Anchorage and drove another 45 minutes to her small town hospital while leaking amniotic fluid in her fifth pregnancy. BUT Trig wasn't born until 8 hours later so it's not like birth was imminent.

[Monicauf]

My neighborhood has signs for McCain and for Obama, as far as I know none of have been stolen- granted I might not know for sure, but the older woman across the street from me seems to know everything about everyone...if something had happened to the signs she would know.

[Susan]

Pal:
<SPAMSPAMSPAMnd I can't tell you how many blogs where the comments include this kind of distasteful, classless garbage.

The hatred that exists in the democratic party by some is just depressing. We are ALL people living in this country and we've divided ourselves based on our political affiliation. >>

The distasteful, classless stuff and "hate" is bipartisan. You don't have to look further than this little old Regis and Kelly fan board to see some of the most vile attacks on Senator Obama that I could ever imagine.

[Susan]

No contest....in my area, the Obama stickers win out. And I see a LOT of bumper stickers in my line of work!

[ChicagoDiva]

All I see is Obama signs and bumper stickers every place I go. No Mccain/Palin.

[its/dani]

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Wow, I had definitely heard the rumors about Trig being Bristol's biological child, but not that Todd had fathered him. That is just gross. I think the rumors about Sarah being the grandma rather than the mom took off because Sarah didn't announce her pregnancy for so long and then didn't look pregnant to many people. Then the fact that she flew from Texas to Anchorage and drove another 45 minutes to her small town hospital while leaking amniotic fluid in her fifth pregnancy. BUT Trig wasn't born until 8 hours later so it's not like birth was imminent.
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see I read that too, and that bothered me a great deal, she knew she was having a special needs baby, was in labour, went and did a speech if I remember right, then got on a plane, and flew in labour. Did she not realize how many things could go wrong? family first speech second IMO

[Mackey]

She should immediately release her medical records and disprove all those nasty rumors once and for all. A really simple solution.

[Pal]

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Pal:
<SPAMSPAMSPAMnd I can't tell you how many blogs where the comments include this kind of distasteful, classless garbage.

The hatred that exists in the democratic party by some is just depressing. We are ALL people living in this country and we've divided ourselves based on our political affiliation. >>

The distasteful, classless stuff and "hate" is bipartisan. You don't have to look further than this little old Regis and Kelly fan board to see some of the most vile attacks on Senator Obama that I could ever imagine.
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Susan, you said, "most vile attacks" on obama are here.........where? Are you talking about "old Smokie" and his posts? The only ones that are offensive are the ones where he brings up race. Is that what you're talking about?

[Skeeter]

See -- I think it's because she can actually prove how many children she has. A man? Who knows how many little John Edwards' there really ARE running around.

And really, truly, what difference would it make if she had 7 children or 2? I don't see the big deal about that. At all.

:)

Skeeter

[Susan]

I'm sorry Pal, I would not even be able to repeat what I have read here that was so offensive. I think you know what I mean.

[Jinh]

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I'm sorry Pal, I would not even be able to repeat what I have read here that was so offensive. I think you know what I mean.
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It's true, Susan, there's just the most vile, awful, ugly crap posted here...

You don't see trolls posting awful messages about McCain...

[Amberz]

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what do you expect from a coon city like Shitcago.

[Ummmmmm]

Does anyone know if Biden was asked to release his medical records? He had some really serious problems a while back I recall. I think if he has, then Sarah should, too. I thought I heard that Obama's doctor just released a one page letter stating that he's healthy - but no backup. I think, in view of the fact that McCain has been very open about his health, so should Obama. Although, since it is apparent the media is in the tank for Obama I am sure there will be no real fuss if he doesn't.

[Mackey]

ALL of the candidates have released their medical records..EXCEPT Palin...since she is the youngest, she should pass the test easily! I believe it is a requirement when running for Presidency, and Vice Presidency.

[Skeeter]

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She should immediately release her medical records and disprove all those nasty rumors once and for all. A really simple solution.
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I agree; and Obama should produce his birth certificate, as well, to dispel the nasty rumors.

[Jinh]

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I agree; and Obama should produce his birth certificate, as well, to dispel the nasty rumors.
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Skeeter, skeeter, skeeter...that's old...

Did you not notice that he campaigned against Hillary Clinton for 16 months?

I know you all are trying to dig crap up, but man, it's all old news - and if there had been anything there, it would have come out ages ago...

Give it a rest - he will be a great president - give him a chance, please.

[Skeeter]

Have you seen his birth certificate? I haven't. I know it's old -- so it should have been produced by now to squelch people's questions. If HE wants to represent ME -- HE needs to be forthcoming, and I need to know he is a natural born citizen. I don't see what the big deal is to see it. It should be a requirement to get on the ballot, but for some reason he hasn't had to show it. Why not?

[beachreader]

Jinh please please please say "dead horse"....you know how I love it when you say that. lol Just kidding! Just teasing you! Seriously! =)

[Monicauf]

It has been seen and produced a few months ago.

SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMwww.factcheckSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMelections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMwww.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/


Also, he never would have been allowed to run for the Senate if he was not a an American citizen.

[Skeeter]

Thanks, Monica. I've never seen those articles before. I'm satisfied now.

I appreciate you posting those links.

:)

Skeeter

[Jinh]

Oh, fine, Monica has to come in like the 'lone ranger' and provide proof! I'm sorry, I thought my word was good enough! lol

[beachreader]

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It has been seen and produced a few months ago.

SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMwww.factcheckSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMelections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

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Also, he never would have been allowed to run for the Senate if he was not a an American citizen.
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Thanks Monica,

I just heard about this issue a couple weeks ago and went online found the 1st link that you posted and was satisfied as well.

[Jinh]

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Jinh please please please say "dead horse"....you know how I love it when you say that. lol Just kidding! Just teasing you! Seriously! =)
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LOL!

You're silly, beachreader!

[beachreader]

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Oh, fine, Monica has to come in like the 'lone ranger' and provide proof! I'm sorry, I thought my word was good enough! lol
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And what was the lone ranger riding...........okay close enough!
Now I have the song ~a horse is a horse of course of course ~ stuck in my head for some reason. lol

[Mackey]

Thanks Monica Now do you have any data that palin has released her medical records.. Skeeter says they should be released....if ya got nothing to hide, ya hide nothing. Really..what is her problem...

[beachreader]

Has Obama produced more than the letter from his dr yet?

[beachreader]

Palin should just have her dr fax a letter saying that she is healthy.

[Novalee]

I agree, BR, if it's good enough for one, it should be good enough for both. I may be in the minority, but I don't care how many children she's had. I don't think it's relevent. But, for the record, I think baby Trig is hers.

[Cindyloo]

I agree that Palin should release her medical records for us to see. It's only right that she does, especially since all the others have done so.

Has Biden released his though? Probably has, I just wasn't sure.

[Mackey]

Morning Cindy, Monica said I ought drop by and say Hi, to my 2 early am posters. I love to see your posts early. yeah, Biden has released medical records, only Palin hasn't...I'm sure she will.

[Cindyloo]

Morning Mackey

I'm always an early bird, then by noon, I'm crapped out...ha!

Nice seeing you this early too!

[Monicauf]

Morning ladies- the others have released their medical records, I find it odd that she hasn't- everyone else that is running has released their medical records, it has nothing to do with curiosity as she stated last week in an interview. Mackey, I am not sure if she will or not, only 9 days left.

[Cindyloo]

Morning Moni

Yep, if she's going to release the records, she better hurry up...lol

[Monicauf]

For those of you that like Palin there is an interview with her and her husband in the latest People magazine- not sure if it is in stores yet, it is dated November 3rd and has Madonna and Guy on the cover. One of the questions was concerning how she has changed the way she talks about sex with her other children and I like how she talks about contraception, she says ideally abstincence, but she is for birth control and I think that is great. Overall, it was a good interview, the best that I have heard from her since she was selected to run for VP.

[beachreader]

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Morning Cindy, Monica said I ought drop by and say Hi, to my 2 early am posters. I love to see your posts early. yeah, Biden has released medical records, only Palin hasn't...I'm sure she will.
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I do not consider a letter from ones dr a medical record. But if that is acceptable then McCain should have just done that(I read that he submitted over 80 pages). And unless Obama handed over more than the one page "letter" from his dr then he and Palin are the only hold outs left.

edited to add that Biden did finally release his on Monday
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[Cindyloo]

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For those of you that like Palin there is an interview with her and her husband in the latest People magazine- not sure if it is in stores yet, it is dated November 3rd and has Madonna and Guy on the cover. One of the questions was concerning how she has changed the way she talks about sex with her other children and I like how she talks about contraception, she says ideally abstincence, but she is for birth control and I think that is great. Overall, it was a good interview, the best that I have heard from her since she was selected to run for VP.
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If I go into town today, I'll pick up a People magazine and read about it. I love the magazine and haven't read one for quite some time. It's nice to see something positive about Sarah. Did my heart good...(:

Thanks Moni



I agree Beachreader...I would think just a letter wouldn't suffice really. Looks like to me, it should be more than that, but oh well.........

[Its V]

Actually............Obama hasn't released ANY records. He released a Dr.'s note, so to speak, which says he's in good health. Period. Once again, he's received a pass. Cripe, us 'regular citizens' need more than a Dr's. note to job interviews today. lol

I'd still like to review Biden's health records as to exams he's having now.....they should be on-going tests of his brain since he already did have an aneurysm. To me, it's much too general just to say that they are 'on going.'

McCain has certainly cooperated and so has Palin.

[beachreader]

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I agree Beachreader...I would think just a letter wouldn't suffice really. Looks like to me, it should be more than that, but oh well.........
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I was wrong about McCain submitting over 80 pages(well okay I was kind of right, it "was" over 80 pages, lol)

From CNN'S website:

McCain has granted access to more than 2,500 pages of records, in 1999 and 2008, and a recent report, including all current medications, from a team of doctors at the Mayo Clinic that has been treating him for years.

Senator Barack Obama released, in May, a one-page letter from his primary care doctor, who had not even seen him in 18 months.

[beachreader]

This is Obamas "medical record" for any who are interested:

To Whom It May Concern:

I am David L. Scheiner, a board certified general internist licensed to practice in the State of Illinois. I am on staff at the University of Chicago Hospitals and Rush University Medical Center. I have been Senator Barack Obama’s primary care physician since March 23, 1987. The following is a summary of his medical records for the past 21 years.

During that period of time, Senator Obama has been in excellent health. He has been seen regularly for medical checkups and various minor problems such as upper respiratory infections, skin rashes and minor injuries.

His family history is pertinent for his mother’s death from ovarian cancer and grandfather who died of prostate cancer. His own history included intermittent cigarette smoking. He has quit this practice on several occasions and is currently using Nicorette gum with success.

Senator Obama’s last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.

Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.

In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.

Sincerely,
David L. Scheiner, M.D.

[Its V]

<<<Overall, it was a good interview, the best that I have heard from her since she was selected to run for VP.>>>


That's unfortunate, Monica. Governor Palin's very first speech with McCain was excellent! Not sure if you knew this but the teleprompter went down and she continued without skipping a beat. Her debate with Biden was also a showcase of her executive experience and knowledge. I won't get into detail with every talk she's had while out on the campaign trail, but needless to say, she's awesome.

Of course she's had some rough times but so have the other candidates. I think, on that, we can agree.

[Cindyloo]

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I agree Beachreader...I would think just a letter wouldn't suffice really. Looks like to me, it should be more than that, but oh well.........
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I was wrong about McCain submitting over 80 pages(well okay I was kind of right, it "was" over 80 pages, lol)

From CNN'S website:

McCain has granted access to more than 2,500 pages of records, in 1999 and 2008, and a recent report, including all current medications, from a team of doctors at the Mayo Clinic that has been treating him for years.

Senator Barack Obama released, in May, a one-page letter from his primary care doctor, who had not even seen him in 18 months.
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Interesting Beach...one page letter and not seeing his doctor for 18 months. Makes ya go...Hmmmm......

Just seen the letter you posted. Well...I'm glad he's okay. It sounds good. Maybe that's all that's needed, heck if *I* know...lol

[Its V]

Thanks beach......

Very interesting read, however, it still is just a note. lol OK...a letter. lol

* Maybe his real medical records are gone..... with his thesis.

[beachreader]

I do not know what is acceptable either Cindy. LOL

But if Obama is in such excellent health, and I am sure that he is, then what is the problem with just releasing the actual records and being done with it.

And if the actual records are not needed then Palin should just get her dr to write up a little something-something like Obamas dr did and get that "summary" turned in.

[Cindyloo]

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I do not know what is acceptable either Cindy. LOL

But if Obama is in such excellent health, and I am sure that he is, then what is the problem with just releasing the actual records and being done with it.

And if the actual records are not needed then Palin should just get her dr to write up a little something-something like Obamas dr did and get that "summary" turned in.
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I agree totally Beach! Can I call ya Beach?...lol


And V...wasn't her speech amazing after the teleprompter went out? This lady does not need a teleprompter. She is just amazing to me.

[beachreader]

V, Obama has had so many passes that you would think that he would just about out by now. He must have a secret pass printing machine of some sort. lol

I did not know the story of Palin prompter going out.

Cindyloo, Beach is cool with me. lol =)

[Cindyloo]

Yah, the teleprompter went out on her and she never missed a beat..lol

Made me proud.

Have a good one girls. Better get something done around here..(:

[beachreader]

Obama Medical Records, College, University, Other Records Still Secret
October 25th, 2008

Obama’s Missing Records:
Medical, College, University, Birth Certificate and Other Records

The Refusal of the Obama Campaign to Release Important Records

[UPDATE: Obama Birth Certificate Federal Lawsuits
Berg v. Obama lawsuit in Philadelphia federal court is dismissed due to Phillip Berg having lack of standing to sue. Obama birth certificate lawsuit news in the section below.]

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The refusal of the Obama campaign to allow the public to see Obama’s records just days before the election is somewhat mystifying.
Unless there is something in them that the campaign feels will be damaging to their efforts to win the White House.

The spate of lawsuits popping up in state courts over the Obama birth certificate issue is a side one. Obama supporters can argue that Obama has produced an image on his website of a Certificate of Live Birth.

Fair enough. But Obama supporters can make no case for the candidate’s refusal to release his other records. An informed electorate needs information.

That the reason we’re more concerned with Obama making his other records off-limits to public scrutiny: medical records, college and university records.

Medical Records
Occidental College Records
Columbia University Records
Harvard University Records
Birth Records
University of Chicago Records

The lack of records is not an oversight: just last month, the Obama campaign repeated its refusal to make his medical records available to the press–and most of the press isn’t asking.


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Obama’s Medical Records?
Barack Obama has refused to release his medical records. Instead, the public will have to make do with an undated letter signed by a doctor which assured the press and the American public that Obama was “in excellent health”.

As DBKP noted last week, when John McCain delayed releasing his medical records to the press last May, the New York Times thundered to it dwindling readers:

“No presidential candidate should get to the point that he has locked up his party’s nomination without public vetting of his health.”
–New York Times, on John McCain in May 4 2008 “Missing Records”

Six months later, the New York Times is predictably silent on the still-secret Obama medical records.


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Obama’s Occidental College Records?
The only trace of Barack Obama at Occidental College that the public is allowed to see is a few poems that may be ordered on the college’s website.

“Transcripts of his poems are available upon request.”

Obama’s Columbia University Records?

Contributing to the mystery is the fact that nobody knows just how well Mr. Obama, unlike Senator McCain and most other major candidates for the past two elections, performed as a student.

The Obama campaign has refused to release his college transcript, despite an academic career that led him to Harvard Law School and, later, to a lecturing position at the University of Chicago. The shroud surrounding his experience at Columbia contrasts with that of other major party nominees since 2000, all whom have eventually released information about their college performance or seen it leaked to the public.
–Obama’s Years at Columbia Are a Mystery

Obama’s Harvard University Records?

Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign says his campaign will bring a new level of honesty and transparency to the White House. Obama proudly touts that he and Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla, passed a law requiring more transparency via a public database of all federal spending.

But when it comes to offering the public documents about his own public and private activities, Obama’s record for openness gets an “F” grade.

During the heated Democratic primary, Obama complained of the Bush White House being “one of the most secretive administrations in our history” and chided Sen. Hillary Clinton for not releasing her White House schedules.

Ironically, Obama, just days away from possibly being elected president, continues to stonewall a growing chorus of information requests for documents about his legislative, personal health, education, financing, and background — leaving many voters to cast ballots based on incomplete information.

–Obama: Most Secretive Democratic Candidate Ever


Obama Birth Certificate

Phillip Berg’s lawsuit in federal court to force Obama to provide his birth certificate to a federal judge was dismissed yesterday due to Berg’s lack of standing.

The order and memorandum came down at approximately 6:15 p.m. on Friday. Philip Berg’s lawsuit challenging Illinois Sen. Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president of the United States had been dismissed by the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick on grounds that the Philadelphia attorney and former Deputy Attorney General for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania lacked standing.
–Lawsuit Against Obama Dismissed from Philidelphia Federal Court

Berg’s lack of standing was cited by many, including our crack research department, as the reason the Berg v. Obama suit would likely be dismissed.

This lack of standing will not settle the issue in the eight state courts where suits have been brought for the same reason as Berg. Their chances on the standing issue are greater.

Jeff Schreiber, Two Articles: Two Sides of Berg v. Obama, remarks on the same Newsmax article we saw last evening, Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit.

The first piece is by Kenneth Timmerman of Newsmax, the same reporter who, just a few days ago, wrote so well about the questionable $63 million in Barack Obama’s campaign coffers. He goes into detail about Obama’s birth certificate, even providing a link to the Certificate of Live Birth provided by the Illinois senator, and an official Certificate of Live Birth from a person born just two years later. Reproduction issues aside, one quite obviously provides more information than the other.

Timmerman also raises an interesting point by highlighting a segment from one of Obama’s memoirs in which he actually mentions the document:

Ironically, Obama mentions his birth certificate in passing on Page 26 of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams of My Father.” “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” he wrote.

As much as I am a skeptic as to all of this business–I’ve said time and time again that I simply feel as though we are constitutionally obligated to ensure that our leaders are properly vetted–this, to me, presents a question as to why it was necessary for Obama to provide an obviously laser-printed, recent copy of his birth records in the first place. If he had his original, tucked in among articles and old vaccination forms, why not just provide that one?

Timmerman asks a good question.

OUR PREDICTION: It won’t be the last time the question is asked before Election Day 2008.

Many readers are likely familiar with the job interview process. The process is simple: The prospective employer is trying to determine if the person he hires will enjoy success with the hiring company.

The company asks for information through an interview, the job application, a resume and the person wanting the job supplies various records–especially college and university records–to the employer to help the company make a decision. If the job is an attractive/important one, the employer will want as much information as possible.

Barack Obama is asking the American people to hire him as President of the United States.

It’s a very important job.

If he wants the American people to hire him, he should provide as such basic information that plenty of other candidates have provided in the past: medical records, college records, university records and other records.

The Obama campaign is essentially asking the American people to trust him; to hire him as President.

He can begin earning that trust by providing his records to the press and public.

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Monicauf;1795174:
For those of you that like Palin there is an interview with her and her husband in the latest People magazine- not sure if it is in stores yet, it is dated November 3rd and has Madonna and Guy on the cover. One of the questions was concerning how she has changed the way she talks about sex with her other children and I like how she talks about contraception, she says ideally abstincence, but she is for birth control and I think that is great. Overall, it was a good interview, the best that I have heard from her since she was selected to run for VP.
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This interview is available online.... (Thanks for the heads up, Monica...)

It's long and in 11 pages, so I'm not going to c & P it, LOL...

SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMwww.people.com/people/article/0,,20235099_1,00.html

;0))

PK

[Monicauf]

You're welcome Pk, what you found online is more extensive than what is in the latest magazine, some of the questions are missing from the hard copy....too bad they did not print everything....maybe, not enough room. I like how they have interviewed every family- well trying to remember if Biden and his family was in People, I know McCain, Obama and now Palin have been interviewed by People.

[beachreader]

<<<<His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids.>>>

roughage!!!~snorting~ ~delayed reaction to that bit of news~

That's it...I'm switching my vote!

Good intake of roughage! lolololololololololololololol

[Cindyloo]

LOL


It's always good to be regular...lol

Good article there Beach about the medical records. Makes one go...Hmmmm............

[beachreader]

Being regular makes a world of difference. lol

I thought this was an excellent point about the birth certificate(why go through all that he did):

Timmerman also raises an interesting point by highlighting a segment from one of Obama’s memoirs in which he actually mentions the document:

Ironically, Obama mentions his birth certificate in passing on Page 26 of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams of My Father.” “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” he wrote.

As much as I am a skeptic as to all of this business–I’ve said time and time again that I simply feel as though we are constitutionally obligated to ensure that our leaders are properly vetted–this, to me, presents a question as to why it was necessary for Obama to provide an obviously laser-printed, recent copy of his birth records in the first place. If he had his original, tucked in among articles and old vaccination forms, why not just provide that one?

[ChicagoDiva]

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Its V;1795179:
Actually............Obama hasn't released ANY records. He released a Dr.'s note, so to speak, which says he's in good health. Period. Once again, he's received a pass. Cripe, us 'regular citizens' need more than a Dr's. note to job interviews today. lol

I'd still like to review Biden's health records as to exams he's having now.....they should be on-going tests of his brain since he already did have an aneurysm. To me, it's much too general just to say that they are 'on going.'

McCain has certainly cooperated and so has Palin.
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I thought Palin still hasn't released her medical records.

BTW HI V :)