Gosselins Getting Rid of Family Dogs

[Scoops]

talk about really screwing up the kids!! disgraceful. imo. For some reason, I think this will affect the kids the most when combined with the split.

pics of the dogs leaving....so sad.

www.radaronline.com/photos/image/20662/2009/09/jon-gosselin-says-goodbye-dogs#image-load

Jon Gosselin Sends His Dogs Back to Breeder, Blames Wife

Wednesday, September 16, 2009


Okay animal lovers, divorcing a spouse is one thing, but getting rid of your dogs is quite another. Jon Gosselin is sending his two German Shepherds back to the breeder as part of the fallout from his divorce from Kate.

While the eight Gosselin children are staying in the family's Wernersville, PA home, their parents are splitting time there, trying to avoid disrupting the kids' lives but also not wanting to be around each other.

Now, Shoka and Nala, the family dogs, are being discarded and Jon has been telling pals it's Kate's fault because she won't take care of them when he's not at the house.

"Jon blames Kate for having to give up the dogs," a source close to the situation told RadarOnline.com exclusively. "Of course, these days Jon blames Kate for just about everything."

Earlier in the summer Jon caused an uproar when he made comments to People.com about the dogs. "Those kids beat them up, climb on them, pull their tails, bite at them, drag them around and everything you can imagine not to do to an animal, they've done."

The Humane Society of Berks County, Pa., where the Gosselins live, received numerous complaints about the family and animal cruelty, prompting Jon to release a statement to the HSBC.

"I would like to clarify a recent statement I made regarding my family's two German Shepherd puppies, Shoka and Nala. The statement - if taken literally and out of context - could be misinterpreted and I'd like to set the record straight. We understand the responsibilities of being good dog owners. Whenever my kids are with Shoka and Nala, everyone is carefully supervised to ensure that no one - dog or child - is injured. Shoka and Nala are loyal companions who we consider members of our family. We would never do anything to hurt them, and treat them with the respect and love that they deserve."

[Scoops]

oops....didn't see that V had already posted a link to the video of this on the "speaking of jackasses" thread....the video is hard to watch. : (


and from now on i guess Jon falls under the jackass title as well!!!! LOL

[Scoops]

ok....I do have to add that the more I think about it....those dogs would never be going anywhere if they were mine...so I do believe him when he says Kate won't take care of them when he isn't there.

If Kate wanted them there for the kids....they would be there....Jon doesn't do anything around that house or get to remove anything without her okay.


In this case....after some thought....even though he was wrong to have it filmed....she is the bigger jerk for allowing them to be taken from the home...and/or not caring for them out of spite...or whatever stupid reason she has. People go to amazing lengths to keep their animals...and for them to go out of that home in front of the children without a fight by Kate leads me to believe 100% that she is the one who doesn't want them.

[Jules]

Oh that is so sad!!!

[KaliChris]

Leave it to the media to try and make it look like Jon's fault. Kate has hated those dogs from day one and from day one has told the kids the dogs are going back. Jon loved the dogs from day one. The breeder said from the start they would take them back (better than going to the pound) at any time. I truly believe Kate wouldn't take care of them. During Jon's time with the kids, you can see the dogs going with them to fish and playing with them on the property; you never see them when Kate's there. She always wanted them crated or locked in the basement and she had a cow when they had a picnic and they were (gasp) around and insisted Jon crate them.

And I did see articles about the kids being seen hitting the dogs with baseball bats, etc. Probably learned it from their mother.

Very sad though; both for the kids and the dogs. :(

[KaliChris]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: Scoops;1903701 (Post Number)

ok....I do have to add that the more I think about it....those dogs would never be going anywhere if they were mine...so I do believe him when he says Kate won't take care of them when he isn't there.

If Kate wanted them there for the kids....they would be there....Jon doesn't do anything around that house or get to remove anything without her okay.


In this case....after some thought....even though he was wrong to have it filmed....she is the bigger jerk for allowing them to be taken from the home...and/or not caring for them out of spite...or whatever stupid reason she has. People go to amazing lengths to keep their animals...and for them to go out of that home in front of the children without a fight by Kate leads me to believe 100% that she is the one who doesn't want them.

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Indeed. And if you will watch the episodes where they got the dogs, you will see how much Kate has always hated them. :(

[KaliChris]

I went over to GWOP to see what they would have to say and some are accusing TLC of planting the dogs there as props. If so, that was not a good thing to do; pets are supposed to be for life, part of the family.

I really feel badly for the twins; especially Mady, who is a huge animal lover.

[itsdani]

Kate made it clear she never wanted the dogs and I can understand her not wanting to take care of two big dogs with 8 small kids...and I am not taking Jon's word that she made them go they both lie like rugs.

Sorry if my hubby left and was doing the shit he is and talking smack about me I'd tell him to take his dogs with him, and get something more suited to a big family with small kids

Or Jon could have hired someone to look after the dogs when he isn't there, Kate doesnt seem like the poop and scoop type to me..

Fact is the marriage ended in October according to Jon so getting the dogs in October was a stupid idea in the first place on both their parts

[Pal]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: KaliChris;1903741 (Post Number)

Indeed. And if you will watch the episodes where they got the dogs, you will see how much Kate has always hated them. :(

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All the more reason for Jon to have provided a home for them.


Do you know that when I moved up here from Virginia, we had to stay at "flea" bag hotels (sorry about the pun, lol) for MONTHS because the better places wouldn't accept animals. I had my little poodle and there is no way I was going to put him in a boarding place or get rid of him.

My whole family sacrificed so we could have Razz with us. I finally ended up paying a woman $2,000. to rent her house for 2 weeks so we could get a break from the little hotel room.

I certainly didn't have that kind of money to be throwing away but I did it.

Jon G. could easily afford what needed to be spent to ensure the dogs that HE wanted so bad were well taken care of.

I never would move to an apartment that wouldn't allow me to bring my pets. Ever.

I think HE was the one who wanted the dogs so bad, he was the one who loved the dogs the most, he was the one who would have given them the most attention so HE should have been the one making sure they had a home with him..............

And he certainly had the money to make that happen. Instead of taking Hailey to France and buying her expensive jewelry and living it up, he should have concentrated on finding a place where he could live with his dogs............

[monicauf1]

Excellent post Pal and I agree with you 100%. I knew you would do whatever it takes to have your baby with you, even staying at flea bag hotels when you moved- animal lovers do that- to me Jon is trying to play the victim card to gain sympathy and it is not working- animal lovers do whatever it takes and he clearly did not do that, he has the time and financial means to take care of the dogs, but he would rather be galivating around with skanks

[KaliChris]

Don't put all the blame on Jon though. Otherwise, I agree with you, Pal. I would never, never get rid of a pet. But then, I had good role models that way. Growing up, our pets were always part of the family and we had them until they died; and my dad had a job where he got transferred. If we had to fly to where we moved, the pets flew on the plane too.

[KaliChris]

Anyway, how do we know this whole scenario wasn't staged by TLC for more publicity? Time will tell.

[Scoops]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: KaliChris;1903779 (Post Number)

Don't put all the blame on Jon though. Otherwise, I agree with you, Pal. I would never, never get rid of a pet. But then, I had good role models that way. Growing up, our pets were always part of the family and we had them until they died; and my dad had a job where he got transferred. If we had to fly to where we moved, the pets flew on the plane too.

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I am with both of you....I posted on the jackass thread that Jon should get a place to house the dogs....I blame both of them....I know Kate doesn't like the dogs...but that just makes her worse of a person in my eyes....I know people who didn't want animals or don't like animals, but once they get one, they change their minds...without exception.

I don't know anyone who got an animal and still felt the same. Those dogs are so good natured and they have taken a licking but remain sweet. How can you go by and not feed them or do the basics? What kind of person operates that way? Jon is a shmuck and an ass, but anyone who ignores the needs of a helpless animal is heartless.....I can't think of any reason good enough to do so.


I don't care if she didn't want them to begin with...or if she has a hundred kids to care for....(hello...she has nannys and bodyguards running around to help her all the time!!!).... and just like Jon she has enough money to hire someone to care for them...pay the nanny extra....build them a separate space.

Do either one of them think of the kids first anymore? This is just cruel to the kids and to the animals...the way Jon handled the departure was awful. It seems to me it's all about what Jon and Kate want....what's easiest for the two of them....the easiest way to make money....the least bother....instant gratification....what gets the best press......etc.

I don't know why, but this animal thing just is the worst of it all imo....coming after what the kids have already had to get used to as far as "changes"....I think any therapist would advise that taking the family pets from the home at this juncture is a terrible idea.

Shame on both Jon and Kate....they are both disgraceful.

[beachreader]

If the dogs look happy and well taken care of then I am sure that she was bluffing (either she or someone were caring for them ) so that Jon would know that she seriously did not want them, that they were his responsibility, and that he needed to get it taken care of.
Seems like he had plenty of time but they were not a priority. How long was she supposed to assume responsibility until he decided to? Did he hore someone to care for them while on vacation with his g/f, etc?

Why couldn't HE hire someone to care for them until he could since he loved and wanted them so much?

I would not be happy assuming yet another of his responsibilities while he goes gallivanting around with young girls.

[SavhLaney]

Just another sad situation for those kids.

[beachreader]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: SavhLaney;1903802 (Post Number)

Just another sad situation for those kids.

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That's true SL :(

[Scoops]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: beachreader;1903800 (Post Number)

If the dogs look happy and well taken care of then I am sure that she was bluffing (either she or someone were caring for them ) so that Jon would know that she seriously did not want them, that they were his responsibility, and that he needed to get it taken care of.
Seems like he had plenty of time but they were not a priority. How long was she supposed to assume responsibility until he decided to? Did he hore someone to care for them while on vacation with his g/f, etc?

Why couldn't HE hire someone to care for them until he could since he loved and wanted them so much?

I would not be happy assuming yet another of his responsibilities while he goes gallivanting around with young girls.

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I have to disagree....although animals ARE a responsiblity, they are so much more than that...I don't understand how she couldn't have become attached. most people fight over custody of animals when they get divorced.

and that being said...I am ticked at Jon for not taking them either. This isn't about Jon or Kate...it's about the animals and the kids...and not taking another constant in their lives from them.
There is something seriously missing from both Jon and Kate if they can both just let them go when they both CLEARLY have the resources financially and helpwise to do otherwise.

[beachreader]

I love animals too Scoops and would fight for custody of my cats (lol) but my husband is taking his birds if we ever find ourselves in that situation or I am accidentally on purpose opening their cage door and a window (j/k...i think).

Seriously if you are not a dog lover and have 8 children I would see dogs as an added responsibility. I would never let them starve but I would try to find them a loving home....or make my husband if they were his.

[itsdani]

I don't believe that Kate wasn't feeding the dogs not for a minute, if that was the case Jon would have had her charged and cameras there filming it for animal neglect..

[KaliChris]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: Scoops;1903787 (Post Number)

Do either one of them think of the kids first anymore? This is just cruel to the kids and to the animals...the way Jon handled the departure was awful. It seems to me it's all about what Jon and Kate want....what's easiest for the two of them....the easiest way to make money....the least bother....instant gratification....what gets the best press......etc.

I don't know why, but this animal thing just is the worst of it all imo....coming after what the kids have already had to get used to as far as "changes"....I think any therapist would advise that taking the family pets from the home at this juncture is a terrible idea.

Shame on both Jon and Kate....they are both disgraceful.

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Doesn't look like they do! I feel so sorry for the dogs and the kids. And...they just taught their kids that animals are disposable things. :(

Jon and Kate are both to blame. And maybe TLC too!

[Purrchance]

This is the first I'm hearing that they're getting rid of their two dogs. This does not surprise me. For starters, I believe they got these two dogs as security for their property and the kids. They never appeared to really be into the dogs as far as grooming, taking for walks, etc. When you bring animals into the home, you should be committing to taking on full responsibility for the care and well being of those animals as if they are your own children. If these dogs were being abused, they should be adopted by a family who will truly love and care for them. I've seen the children climbing all over men who appear on the show from time to time, so it doesn't surprise me if they're climbing and mistreating their dogs. Those kids are like little monkeys jumping all over the place. I knew that it wasn't a good idea to get those dogs and I knew there would be a fallout at some point, especially since they are split up, they have enough to worry about, and don't seem the type who are true animal lovers and would take care of them properly. It's sad for the dogs because I am sure they loved the kids and the family as a whole, and I'm sure the kids will miss them as well. Lots of families get rid of animals when they no longer have a need for them, which is such a travesty.

[KaliChris]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: beachreader;1903800 (Post Number)

If the dogs look happy and well taken care of then I am sure that she was bluffing (either she or someone were caring for them ) so that Jon would know that she seriously did not want them, that they were his responsibility, and that he needed to get it taken care of.
Seems like he had plenty of time but they were not a priority. How long was she supposed to assume responsibility until he decided to? Did he hore someone to care for them while on vacation with his g/f, etc?

Why couldn't HE hire someone to care for them until he could since he loved and wanted them so much?

I would not be happy assuming yet another of his responsibilities while he goes gallivanting around with young girls.

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They BOTH knew they were splitting up when they got the dogs. They were BOTH their responsibility. She hated them but chose to get them anyway.

They are both to blame.

And I thought Mady and Cara were supposed to be in charge of feeding/watering them. The kids are the ones who are always there.

No matter what any of our opinions, both adults here are to blame.

[KaliChris]

From Googling, I'm finding different stories; one about the humane society receiving numerous complaints about the kids abusing the dogs and the other one that said Kate wanted to get rid of them because one of the kids has allergies to it.

[KaliChris]

One of the kids was filmed hitting one of the dogs with a plastic bat two weeks ago and there have been so many complaints of abuse, I wonder if they were forced to send them back? I also found where Jon, in an interview, said he is just sending them to the breeder until he can decide what to do with them. Maybe his apartment building doesn't allow dogs?

I guess the real truth will come out eventually anyway.

[Scoops]

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QUOTING FROM POSTER: Scoops;1903787 (Post Number)

Do either one of them think of the kids first anymore? This is just cruel to the kids and to the animals...the way Jon handled the departure was awful. It seems to me it's all about what Jon and Kate want....what's easiest for the two of them....the easiest way to make money....the least bother....instant gratification....what gets the best press......etc.

I don't know why, but this animal thing just is the worst of it all imo....coming after what the kids have already had to get used to as far as "changes"....I think any therapist would advise that taking the family pets from the home at this juncture is a terrible idea.

Shame on both Jon and Kate....they are both disgraceful.

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Doesn't look like they do! I feel so sorry for the dogs and the kids. And...they just taught their kids that animals are disposable things. :(

Jon and Kate are both to blame. And maybe TLC too!

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That's my beef....animals are not disposable....a bad lesson at a very stressful critical time in their lives. what?.... are these kids supposed to cope with losing everything at once?

Now that I read you posted that there really was actual abuse, then maybe Jon/Kate have no choice? What kind of people let their kids hit animals with bats? plastic or not....bad parenting once again.

I couldn't imagine Jake ever, ever, ever hitting any animal with a plastic bat. In fact any time he sees abuse of animals in a story on tv he actually talks about taking a bat to the people who abused the animals....in a conversational way...not literally...just more like he wishes someone would hurt those people. I hope I said that right...lol....before my son becomes the topic!!!

[Mandy]

This just reinforces my total lack of confidence in either Jon or Kate being fit to care properly for pets OR children.

They are self-absorbed manipulators who allowed their children to be exploited for money, and are the worst kind of role-models for those kids.

If the dogs were being mistreated while living with the Gosselins, they will probably be better off back with the breeders anyway.

[KaliChris]

Scoops, same with my son; he was raised with pets and has always been very protective over animals.

And Mandy, good post.

This thing with the dogs has about pushed me over the edge. I just watched the most recent episode from just recently, where Jon took the kids fishing and Shoka happily went along with them. I will have a hard time watching any episodes with the dogs in them now. :(

[KaliChris]

Don't know if this post is valid or not, but (from GWOP):

E said...

I live near the Gosselins...I believe they were picked up by a service that takes your pet to be groomed. That's the word here anyway. I also have a feeling the photographers were staged to show this so everyone would flip out and the ratings would go up again.... That is personal opinion but, the other I've heard from a few people. It seems to be working that when they do something big good or bad it gets ratings. They know the dogs are a hot button so send them off to the groomers, call in the paps and viola, higher ratings.