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<curious>
06-22-2002, 11:38 PM
I know most people want to jump on the Majority Band Wagon because there is safety in numbers and they can't stand the heat. Not me!! I would rather stay with the Minorities who have the courage to say what they really feel regardless of the immature reponses they may get.

<Downunder>
06-23-2002, 04:55 AM
Good for you Curious!

I think, though, that quite a few people on here are actually 'real' friends, meaning that they not only converse on these boards but actually talk on the phone, email each other and some, even know each other in the flesh.

I know that a lot of the NUTS group are 'real' friends and in no way are they going to get into a fight or argument with each other over an 'outsider'. So they come across as Band wagoners etc. LOL.

<curious>
06-23-2002, 12:32 PM
Thanks Downunder--Finally somebody that can respond in an adult way. But Mel always accuses people of using other names . When I ask her if she ever does, she won't tell so I assume that she does do it also. Now is'nt that the pot calling the kettle black??

<Christine>
06-23-2002, 12:47 PM
The only thing I'm going to say here is that I don't try to stay in the majority OR the minority. I'm not a follower. I try to respond to the post more than the person behind the post. If I don't agree with something you say or do, I won't agree with you just because you're my friend. To me that's being dishonest. I also don't quit liking somebody just because so and so is my friend and THEY don't like them. I've seen people do that in a different group on a different board and I find it a major turn off. I'm an individual and I post as one.

This isn't directed at anybody; just responding to the subject of this thread.

<curious>
06-23-2002, 01:04 PM
Yes Christine, this happens more than any of us will ever know. How sad it is when a person is judge by what another person says. It is a very weak person that cannot rely on their own instincts so they rely on others. Unfortunately a lot of people get hurt because of this. As for me, I'm a little leery of the person that tries to turn me against another one. Usually, that is the person that can't be trusted. I like to think that I'm capable of making up my own mind.

<Christine>
06-23-2002, 01:10 PM
Disclaimer: What I said wasn't about anybody in *this group*.

I HAVE dealt with that on a different board though, to the point where they got mad that *I* would reply to somebody that they:

A. Didn't like.
B. They THOUGHT was a troll (even when they didn't behave like one).

I hate that kind of thing. I make up my own mind about other people/posters. And I don't expect others to turn on somebody because *I* don't like them.

<curious>
06-23-2002, 03:21 PM
And why not "this group" Christine? Are they different from anybody else? When a person would post and one of your group would respond with a negative attitude { and I'm putting it mildly} the whole gang jumped in with the same response to this person. Everybody does'nt agree with everything at the same time. That just is'nt humanly possible. Some said they did'nt like the filthy language but nobody had the courage to tell her. And when I did, the whole gang jumped in. But it would have been nice to see somebody step up to the plate and state their real feelings regardless. So I don't see anything different about this group. I knew what to expect when I did it.

<Christine>
06-23-2002, 03:39 PM
Because this group welcomes everybody with open arms, as long as they're not coming in and jumping all over them about stuff. The other group I was talking about was very selective as to who they liked, and if one of the others decides they don't like a poster, the others suddenly turn on them. I haven't seen it in this group myself, and that's basically what I was talking about.

But no group of people is perfect, face it. People are far from perfect and get a whole group; you get lots of different personalities and there will ALWAYS be some problems.

Anyway, pot stirrers showing up often CREATES a problem, where there wasn't one before.

<Christine>
06-23-2002, 03:41 PM
BTW, I think I've made it clear publicly that I don't approve of the filthy language. I won't pretend, but it really does no good. I know not everybody says is publicly, but you don't know what all is said in private.

<Cindyloo>
06-23-2002, 03:43 PM
Gosh, it never bothered me who talks to who. I never understood people being that way. Even out here in "real" life, I'm that way. Anyone can talk to ever they want to. I'm the type, if I'm uncomfortable with a person, I just stay away from that person, real life or internet.

I find that getting along is sooo much easier than fighting, but that's just me.

<Christine>
06-23-2002, 03:48 PM
That's how you strike me, Cindyloo!

<Christine>
06-23-2002, 03:51 PM
&lt;snip&gt;"...if I'm uncomfortable with a person, I just stay away from that person, real life or internet."

Well said. Me too. And it is SO much easier on the internet than in "real life", isn't it? If you don't like somebody, you can just totally ignore them here!

<Cindyloo>
06-23-2002, 03:55 PM
You're right Christine, it IS easier to do on the internet than in real life. I just ignore the negative and concentrate on the positive. LOL

<curious>
06-23-2002, 04:09 PM
So basically, what you are saying, is if you don't like what is being said, don't voice your opinion, ignore, or you will be in for a lot of put-downs, name-calling like pot stirrer, troublemaker, troll and many other filthy names. Where is the freedom of speech in doing that?

<Trixie>
06-24-2002, 06:12 AM
If freedom of speech had anything to do with it, so many posters wouldn't end up trying to control what others are saying or, yes, how they're saying it. Notwithstanding the habit some have of labeling posters as "newbies," unless otherwise stated, these forums are open to anyone and are unmoderated--not some private bastion that's been "infiltrated" and which needs to be protected. If one thinks a particular BB has "changed," or degenerated, then perhaps s/he should check out some others. Control freaks please, if you must control something, control your own lives; this is a BB!!!! LOL! It was here long before any of us checked in and it'll be here long after any of us "leaves." (Hopefully, without a high-drama, kissy-poo, "I'll-miss-most-of-y ou" announcement) LOL!

<Christine>
06-24-2002, 11:04 AM
Well said, Trixie.

Curious, you're more than welcome to voice your opinions, but if your main objective is to put down a certain group on their boards (where they are posting), and/or try to divide and conquer, then don't expect to make a lot of friends. I posted on one board where many trolls would come in and insult are group and then complain when we "weren't nice to them". ???? Come in and try to fit in, and you're likely to make friends. See the difference?

About the freedom of speech, this IS an unmoderated board so anything and everything goes to a point. Offender made a very good point that this board is privately owned and freedom of speech doesn't really apply here; in other words, Trevor has the final say and can ban anybody that he desires.

<curious>
06-24-2002, 01:31 PM
Yes, this is fairly new to me and it is'nt real life so maybe the rules are different. I've always been for the under-dog so maybe I over-reacted, but I will not apologize or change how I feel about that. As for controlling anybody, that is the last thing I would do. I am so against that and will not allow anybody to control me although many have tried. My kids tell me that I'm too stubborn to let them control me. My thanks to DU, Christine and Trixie, as while we disagree on many things, we did it in an adult manner. So continue with whatever you are doing and I think that I will just give my opinions on TV shows which is what I thought this show was supposed to be all about.

<Christine>
06-24-2002, 02:16 PM
Cool. We all thought that at first, but this is a "free for all" website. When you get adjusted to it, it's actually a lot of fun. Just don't take anything too seriously, and when a board or group is stressing you out, find another one; it isn't worth getting stressed out over a BB.

Good luck to you!

<curious>
06-24-2002, 02:20 PM
Thanks and Good Luck to you also. Take Care!!

<Christine>
06-25-2002, 11:15 PM
Trevor just put this up and I think it's very appropriate:

"TVTalkShows.com Lurker Warning: If you don't want to be attacked....then don't post on here at all. Duh!

TVTalkShows.com is like a box of chocolates...because you never know what you are going to read next!"

<Mel>
06-26-2002, 06:23 AM
LOL!!! But maybe he should also add :

TvTalkShows has not and WILL never force a person to read posts that they don't enjoy.

<Trixie>
06-26-2002, 06:26 AM
LOL! Perfect!

<Christine>
06-26-2002, 06:45 AM
LOL! True! Maybe he needs to add an "addendum". ;)