Skakel Found Guilty

[<Shana>]

Michael Skakel was found guilty . You should see the media up here . It's crazy . Norwalk court house is so small and it's a very busy area around there with no parking. I'm surprised Mrs. Moxley didn't come out of the court house and make a statement. They will ship Michael Skakel to Whalley Ave. now till sentencing ,then he will be sent to a state prison. Whalley is just county. I wonder if they will put him in high security or with the other inmates.

[<Terry2>]

I cant believe it! I thought for sure he'd get off. And the deliberations taking several days, didnt look good for the prosecution. I'm glad for her family. At least they can have closure now.

[<Catsmeow>]

I'm very surprised that he didn't get away with it but very glad he was found guilty.

[<Shana>]

terry2 I was surprised to. Micky Sherman is one of the best Attorney's up here . Even the media is shocked. Mrs. Mockley is speaking now,she seems like such a gracious woman and is glad and shocked it got this far. Mickey Sherman card on sentencing will probably be that Michael Skakel was a juvenille during that time.

[<Terry2>]

I checked the CNN website and it says Mrs. Moxley and her son will be on Larry King tonight.

[<barbm>]

Thanks for all the info. I have been busy and didn't have the radio on. Wow, I am shocked. I thought for sure he would walk. Glad for the Moxleys. Poor lady. A long time coming. I will for sure check out Larry King tonight.

[<Ragdoll>]

Look most of you, I am stunned that they found a shirt-tail Kennedy relative guilty. The legal system worked!

[<Ski Girl>]

Was that trial televised? If so we didn't get it but that's not a surprise...QVC was knocked out of our system for 6 days last week and I was MAD since I'd planned for months to be in Malibu last Saturday!

[<sunshine_a>]

I truly think that he is as guilty as they come. I am very happy for the Moxley family, maybe finally, they can find some peace.

[<Catmeow>]

Too bad he had his freedom these past 27 years and he wasn't rotting in jail since day one!! Being he was a juvenile at the time of the murder, how much time will he actually serve?

[<sunshine_a>]

Read this: Twenty-four years after he allegedly told a reform school classmate, "I am going to get away with murder. I am a Kennedy," the 4**year-old nephew of Ethel Kennedy was convicted Friday of the 1975 murder of Martha Moxley.

From courttv.com

Hah!

Catsmeow, he actually faces up to life in prison.

[<$pender>]

I also never thought he'd be found guilty.Obveously they 12 people on the jury who heard the evidence thought he was.IF and I say IF he is innocent(many thought it was his brother Tommy),he'll give his brother up.He won't fall on his sword to save his brother.You just have to woner,IF he had been tried and found guilty as a JUVENILE,and with his families power and position,he would have done a minumum of time.Then out and having a life ahead of him.NOW ,tried and convicted as an ADULT,he's going away for a long time.He would have done better to have cut a deal years ago as a kid.

[<$pender>]

sorry,it's Friday and my typing sucks,sorry for the spelling and typo's

[<Queenie>]

I am stunned too! After OJ, I thought anyone with clout gets away with murder. This is justice at it's finest! Did anyone read the book Mark Furman wrote that reopened this case? I want to read it now.

[<$pender>]

also reas "A season in Purgitory" by Dominic Dunne.....based on this case....is EXCELLENT read!!!

[<Shana>]

Mark Furman was here at the Norwalk Court house . They interviewed him and of course he took credit for all of this. The lead proscecutor wanted all the attention of course and said Mark Furman had nothing to do with getting Skakel convicting. They said Skakel hung himself by talking about it all these years,thats he's a Kennedy and could get away with anyone. Mark Furman book did reopen the case so Skakel was tried and convicted ,but since the OJ trial and finding out Mark Furman's predudice I don't care for him. I feel OJ was let go free for Furman being predudice. I watched the OJ trial till the end. What surprised me is Skakel wasn't sent to a county jail (usually Whalley Ave. ) ,They sent him to a maximum security prison Walker Corrections level 5. Highest level you can go. He probably is put by himself ,but who knows . Last I knew Alex Kelly was there for rape. He lived one town over from Norwalk where Skakel's trial was in Darien. Skakel murder took place in Greenich the trial was originally in Stamford,but the court house was under renovation ,so was moved to Norwalk. They interviewed some Greenwich residents ,it was funny right on Greenhich Ave where I go shopping sometines and everyone they interviewed was so glad he was found guilty . They all thought cause he was a Kennedy he would of gotten off like his cousin ,who's now a DR. but was up on rape charges if any of you remember that trial. And no the trial was not televised on Court Tv.Skakel will be in a cell 23 hours a day,no tv,nada ,except for 1 hour to be outside and 3 15 minute calls a day. Tv and such have to be ordered thru commissary and takes 2 weeks before it starts. He wont even have shampoo. They give you a bar of soap,A razor only when you shower and then they take it from you, a towel the size you dry your dishes off. Believe me he's getting his. Of course nothing can bring Martha back or take Mrs Moxley's pain away ,but I hope this gives her some type of peace.

[<sunshine_a>]

Shana, just curious. Did you grow up in Greenwich, and if so, do you remember when Martha was killed, and did you know her?

[<Shana>]

No I have family that lives in Greenwich , I was born In New York,Most of my family is from and still in New York, When I was Younger my father's job took him here and I went to school in Norwalk. I don't remember her getting murdered ,just recently when Skakel was arrested was the 1st i heard of it. I went to Catholic schools and a few private I had alot of people from Westport, Darien,New Canaan go to school with me. Linda Blair was in my school. Brooke Shields was there to but she was not in my grade. She's a bit younger. Most were from Westport and New Canaan. I was practically the only non ritch person . When I got older and was in college I had a job at the phone co to and my plan was to go back home to New York ,But didn't work out that way cause I ended up staying at the phone co here and we were always moved around the state. Now that I no longer work there ,were selling the house to go back home.

[<disgusted>]

Did it occur to anyone, that the Big reason Skakel was brought to trial was because of 2 Dilletanes, the liar Mark Furnam, and the Kennedy wannabe Domenic Dunne, wanted to achieve fame amd money. They incited the public by their non factual books, on The Skakels and their relationship to the Kennedys This trial had nothing to do with justice and everything to do with the desire for fame and publicity and vengence by the Moxleys. If they are so upset why are they constatly in the public eye and taking EVERY opportunity to talk to the press, and tell everyone how they feel/ I would think that now that they got what they wanted they would go home and pray and thank God, but they still want more publicity. A strange way to grieve, by using every opportunity to present their faces to the cameras. This was a great tragedy 27 years ago, a young girl was killed, I don,t know who is responsible, and no one does, A bunch of kids were out on Haloween, were drinking and we all know the results If this were not a high profile case because of the Kennedy ties, it NEVER would have been considered for prosecution Money and fame were the motivation. Moxley money, and the pathetic desire for fame for these 2 "?writers" Please think about the fairness of this and the pain to all invoved 27 years after the fact. Poor martha is at peace and in a better place, why is it necessary to cause more pain and humiliation?

[<DixieChik>]

From what I understand, Michael Skakel convicted hiself through his own words. He was planning on writing a book when this was over, and recorded his story about the night of the murder. The problem his...his story did not jive with his alibi...he hung himself. That's why my husband ALWAYS tells his clients never to talk to anyone about the case. Inevitably, they make a mistake ( OF COURSE...ALL of my husbands clients are innocent and would NEVER lie! LOL )

[<Frenchi>]

I don't too much about this case, but if I were a juror, I would have to ask myself, "Why would someone who says he is innocent tell anyone that he was going to get away with murder?" Kennedy or not, you just don't say anything like that if you were not involved......but this is just how my mind would work.

[<Shana>]

disguisted anythings possible and your entitled to your opinion ,I agree with you I do not like Mark Furman since the OJ trial. Hes a racist. I never read his books ,but answer me this why would Skakel continue over the years to talk about this and say he's priviledged because he's a Kennedy ? I also agree with you on that friend that OD and they let it into evidence. Prosecutors love to get inmates to testify in court they heard this and that ,to get what they want and the inmates lying. My friends a criminal attorney and what he tells me shocks me. I still feel from what i've seen thruout the trial hes guilty . I don't feel Mrs . Moxley is wanting all this media attention,she may of at first to get justice for her daughter but she has mega bucks ,no need to for the media now. She will probably go on tv now just cause she finally got justice for her daughter's death now ,but she will return to her everyday life afterwards. She could like they did to OJ sue in cival court to ,but she only wanted justice not money . If you saw her on tv she's a very refined woman.Just my opinion.

[<disgusted>]

It is only Hearsay that Skakel said that he would get away with murder, and those that quoted him were the scum of the scum, liars and substance abusers, They would and did say whatever was required of them to aid the prosecution and help themselves. You know that! After this week the Moxleys will be old news and the media won,t be interested in them, I feel stongly that they got the verdict they paid for, now they should stay out of the spotlight and have their closure. My main point is that if it were not a high profile case with Kennedy ties, and Moxley money plus the books written by the "Wannbes" Furnam and Dunne this case would have faded into obscurity The time to prosecute was 27 years ago.

[<$pender>]

12 people who saw the evidence and heard the testamony convicted him.That is our American system of law.If he thought he could talk about it and not have it bite him in the ass,well I guess he thought wrong.If OJ had talked about it,well then he'd be in prison too,but they put a gag in his mouth and double jeopardy attaches and protects him.He could book Larry King and Say on the air,"Yup,I did it and i got away with murder" and he'd still walk out of the studio a free man.Skakel talked smack and now it appears he'll do some serious time.Again IF he did do it,it would have been better to have cut a deal as a juvenile and walked away with a short sentance,now as an adult,he's screwed.

[<Frenchi>]

I will say this, my husband works for the state in corrections, and he tells me all the time that if an inmate says someone is treating him badly, or doing something wrong period, the accused has to be able to prove that the inmate is lying or else they get punished by the state. I mean it can be someone who is on hot meds., or just the lowest of the low. Its crazy.....but the state will believe that inmate unless they can be proved wrong.

[<Shana>]

disguisted seems the police dont do there job well. Look at the Chandra Levy case. The Levy's hired there own PI who came up with more bones of Chandra and Greta Van Sustren went there and found a scarf I think that was very old. How can Cases be solved if the police dont do there work properly ? Another child 14 years old taken the other night from there home ,what are they doing ? Jon Benet did she or will ever have justice ? And out lovely government that poor husband and wife tortured for a year now the husbands dead . Wasn't our government that went in to try and save him but the phillipines used our equipment. Did Dan Pearl get Justice and were paying Pakistan mega bucks . His wife just had there child.

[<disgusted>]

Shana, You are so right. All the pain that is caused by the inefficiency of law enforcement and the resulting tragedies would break your heart. The death of anyone is mourned, but the death of a child is beyond pain. Yes those missionaries trying to do God,s work and our Govt, let them down big time. Oh shanna, I guess we go to bed tonight and say a prayer for all of us, and keep up our vigillance. We must stay alert, and call them as we see them.You are a wise and thoughtful person. Nice to "meet" you.

[<DixieChik>]

My husband has had several clients convicted of murder who would never have been caught if they hadn't talked to someone. One in particular, the man murdered a girl, dumped the body, then told his girlfriend. The girlfriend called the police and told them where he said he dumped the body ( in the back of a golf course). The cops went out and didn't find it. Seven years later.....a golfer found the body! The man is now in prison on a second degree curder conviction. I think there must be something in the human psyche that makes a person talk about something like that after they do it.

[<Shana>]

Dixiechick, Do you work with your husband ? I love working with my friend who's a criminal attorney. I'll tell you after working with him , I got a reality check how the judicial system is. What cracks me up is everyone he tries to help and goes to jail, they swore to god ,everyone they changed , there life is going to chamge and sometimes 1 day later after they get out ,there calling him again. Lots of drug offenders, domestic those are the top 2 that are constant. When you go into court its always a roll of the dice .But I love talking to him and working with him. I'm sure your husbands a great attorney, my friend always go the extra mile for them ,sometimes I wonder why ,when You know they will be right back. Some attorneys just go thru the motions.

[<DixieChik>]

No shana, my husband and I don't work together. We'd drive each other nuts! I hear about it all at home. Criminal law is interesting, but sometimes I think his clients have watched too much LA Law......alot of the criminal stuff is pretty cut and dried ( the state or the Feds have alot of damaging evidence) and they just work out a plea. Some of his clients are REAL doozies, though.

[<kittycats>]

Shana: OJ was found not-guilty because 98% of the jury were black. Mark Furman had nothing to do w/OJ being found that way. Besides, we all know that OJ murdered his wife, and he got away with it.

[<Trixie>]

Right on. And they bought his "I'm really one of you" act hook, line, and sinker. That guy couldn't find his way around the 'hood with a road map.

[<Terry2>]

Diusgusted, do you think the Moxleys are only interested in publicity?