OK Scoops... I guess you are only

[<PK>]

responding to selective threads.. Evidently you did not read my post to you much earlier in response to your obsession post......

FYI, It is c&pd here...
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&lt;PK&gt; 208.207.71.239 November 06, 2002 11:06 AM (Pacific / California Time Zone)

Scoops...

Yes, I definitely agree it can be very aggravating to be snidely targeted so that only the target "gets it".. Got a dozen of THOSE t-shirts, all monogrammed..

Perhaps that's why it's doubly aggravating to me that you only blast one side, and are now lumping all Kelly Fans together. That alone indicates that you must not be one???

I didn't think there were any outright insults, (snide is a way of life by those we all know and love.) except for Lisac butting in and insulting Dolphi for working at Target. Seems to me you also did not get personally ragged on until you swung pretty hard, first. You may have had an issue with a poster or two on a previous thread, but no one swung at you on the "I don't understand" thread.

As far as your "cheerleaders" are concerned, they are doing you no favors. Seems to me they've been spoiling for a fight all week, but haven't been able to get one started. Seems to me, they are using you for just that purpose today. I've been trying to stay out of their way all week, but that's easier said than done, since they are following you everywhere.

As far as "fashion" goes... Keep in mind that everyone on this board cannot afford Dolce and Gabbana, or whatever, and do buy their clothes from WalMart, KMart, Target, etc... Seems many of the fashion comments here are insulting to all those posters by association. Wow, if I gave a flip about fashion, I would be insulted... LOL (Love that Dollar Store!)

It's always who's OX is being gored..But then that is just my opinion.

You are entitled to yours.

Have a good one...

PK
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There was no response to that post, but you did post this... elsewhere - later..
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&lt;Scoopsplus&gt; 66.31.225.77 November 06, 2002 02:12 PM (Pacific / California Time Zone)

Linda..let me see if I have this straight...some of us talk about Kelly's clothes...on each and every occasion, we are told by someone in the "Kelly fanclub" that we are obsessed, wasting valuable time, talking about something trivial, don't like the show, and so on. We are not insulting Kelly or anyone posting here, just talking style, minding our own beeswax.
They are the people who go off topic by putting down our choice for discussion, but I am wrong for responding to that. Somehow you reason that as me going off topic.? Huh?

I think you lost track of who put down who first, or who started a whole thread to just ponder our triviality. Although some hate to admit it...these things do start somewhere.

I read a couple of similar posts to linder on another thread. She was minding her own business as well, and lo and behold, some took issue with it. Why?, I don't know.

So when you think I am getting upset...probably right. I wasn't very upset when I wrote my initial joke post, and that is the truth..just a little cranky, and a bit mischievous, but this is ridiculous.

And Dolphi, or whoever you really are....I don't normally "tear down" other posters, I don't sit around complaining about Kelly, and everyone here knows it,
so pontificate all you want, or check your back files, as some here are known to do, that is not my M.O..

I cannot believe this has all generated over my initial post on this thread. I find THAT fascinating.
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If you continue to go back to the first egg, I think you should reread your first 2 posts this morning... You came out with a chip on your shoulder, and made snide remarks (posted below, fyi) to anyone who would dare to contradict you.. (BYW, I find your last comment in the above post, telling, if not "fascinating" - seems to me you have indeed, chosen a side.. Whatever..
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"They do enough fashion segments on this show, (even though some find it uninteresting...they must not watch then as they tell us to do)"

Followed by:

"Does anyone really like these outfits, and why?...I am not asking those who feel indifferent , we know, you love the show anyways, blah blah blah....very nice, so do I."

The Blah, blah, blah, was a "nice" touch, don't you think?? (That certainly included me, I blah, blah, blah a lot...) Just recall NO ONE had said boo to you or anyone at that time.. Go back and look... Then you came romping and stomping on another thread that had not mentioned you, and was not directed at you... You took it personally, and the rest is history...

I hate it things have come to this... I tried to contact you off board a couple of times, but both email addies I had for you evidently were out of date.

I Really do hate it.. But I am done...

PK

[<Scoopsplus>]

PK, I appreciate your efforts to contact me. I changed my address due to this strange virus flooding that was generating from my bookclub. I don't want to worry anyone here who was in my address book...I emptied that after the second virus that Norton Anti-virus isolated.

I understand what you are trying to show me here...I did put a couple of remarks that weren't nice in two of my post this morning. That is true.

They were more directed by numerous past experiences when posting about Kelly's outfits.....although , I don't see that they are aimed at anyone by name, but if some want to take offense, well so be it. Perhaps they are the ones that repeatedly tell people not to watch the show if they don't like something, or those that discount our fashion comments as shallow by saying they watch the show for enjoyment, and never worry about anything as insignificant as Kelly's attire....like we don't watch for enjoyment, because we hate Kelly's wardrobe?
Those people aren't being nice either with the holier than thou attitude. I don't care if it irked those people, that's who I wanted to irk. Reading their snide posts irks me.
Once again, before it gets misconstrued, I don't mean those that just say they really don't care what Kelly wears...it's the posters that add in the extra comments directed at those that do.

Like you always say to me...some things have a history. This is just something that bugs me. I enjoy chatting about fashion, and I don't enjoy when those people show up to reprimand, rather than discuss.

As for me using "fascinating", I used it on the thread that it was used originally, because that person took my beloved "jeepers"&lt;wink&gt ; to use in her post. No hidden meaning there. If you want to make something deeper out of it...that's par for the course around here.

The Kelly "fanclub" is certainly not all the posters that like Kelly, since I am one of those, of course, and so are you. It is those that take offense to each and every comment, no matter how remotely it pertains to Kelly. They come on each day doing exactly what I did this morning...prefacing or ending, each positive post about the show with taunts to those that don't care for Kelly. I could put many examples, but I know you know what I mean...it is very similar to the way I worded my posts this AM.
I don't usually do that...but those folks, in the "fanclub" as I call it, do it every day. Obviously, if I choose to do it once in a blue moon, it's world war three for some reason, but I have been reading stuff like that for months.

I am sad that you think it has come to something larger than just a board argument. It isn't to me. I just had more time than usual today to argue my case. Sometimes that is not a good thing, as is evidenced here.

[<Linda>]

Scoops, I am sorry to butt in here, but I feel like I am involved in this. I am still trying to understand why it was so important to you to get into the discussion we were having and post the things you did to us. Lmroland did not butt into the thread of the "discussions" you were all having about fashion, she did not reprimand anyone. That is the point here. I could see you being angry if we butted in on the "fashion" threads and made comments. But we didn't. Lmroland started her own thread, and we were on there to state our opinions. You say reading certain peoples snide (in your opinion) posts "irk" you. I'm assuming you include Lmroland in that category. If she "irks" you, why even read a thread started by her? Its much easier if you don't read posts by people who "irk" you, that's what I have been trying to do lately. There were no "taunts" in our posts either. Also, when you said those in the "kelly fan club" post taunting posts everyday, then in the name of "fairness" even you have to admit that the "anti kelly fan club" also does the same thing everyday. Like I said at the beginning, sorry to butt into this thread between you & PK, but I really don't understand why you have made this an "us" and "them" issue.

[<Scoopsplus>]

Really Linda...I said my posts were mostly directed at (past) snipes about fashion posting. Yesterday was kind of the straw...if you know what I mean? I also pretty much excluded your post in yesterday's thread by saying who I did not mean ...if you go back and read what I posted.

I don't care if the put down is posted on the same thread or not. In fact it is even worse that a whole different thread was posted just to "wonder" what was wrong with those of us that discuss clothing. How would you like it if you were talking about something you enjoyed, and I posted a whole new topic just trying to figure you out...why did you talk about it?...why don't you have better things to do?...why can't you enjoy the show, and basically just shut up?

I like to talk about fashion without being insulted, either directly or indirectly. That is really what got me going. No one on here gets carte blanche
to just post about other posters without a response. I wasn't butting in yesterday, and you aren't butting in today. This is a message board...post away. It's just the unsolicited insults I don't like. I did some of that in my initial posting yesterday. If it bothered someone, then they must be who I was referring to. Just like the fashion sniping bothered me. I talk about it (fashion)...so therefore I felt I was included in the daily commentary/insults.

Yes the anti-Kelly fanclub does do the same thing, but I don't believe the taunts are made with as much frequency these days. Perhaps it is because there are more of you. I don't know? Perhaps I miss some of them, since the volume is less, and they seem to be more personal taunts only known to your group? Whatever....I just want to talk about Kelly's clothes once in a while without having to duck for cover.
It's such a benign topic anyways...we shouldn't be fighting about it.

Are we done yet?

[<IAgreeWith>]

Scoopsplus. Now,more BigSkyWriter please. That is worth reading.