Pickles anyone?

[NoPickles]

CAN YOU EXIST WITHOUT A PICKLE??



Have you recently looked at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles. Yep...."Made in Mexico"

Check some of your Heinz products. Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory.

That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in Europe and four in Asia. Also, they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States.

Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner?

If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't.

They're making millions off that cheap labor.

Hey! If I can get by without a Toyota I can exist without a Heinz pickle....and if Kerry thinks he can bring jobs to America, he should look to his wife first.....

[Jinh]

Do you realize that your 'precious'G.W.Bush is a VERY strong advocate of outsourcing???

As far as I know, John Kerry has nothing to do with the Heinz Co...other than the fact that his wife was married to John Heinz and inherited the name and ALOT of money...

So, if you're trying to paint Kerry in a bad light - it ain't gonna wash...

If you are against outsourcing - write Dubya and tell HIM!

Jinh

[NoPickles]

So why would Teresa HEINZ Kerry hang on to such a name if she had nothing to do with any o of the business? I find that very hard to believe.

You can believe what you want, but that man would be a very scarey choice for President. I am not trying to paint Kerry in a bad light. He has done it himself already with his actions (or maybe I should say nonactions).

George is the man!

[Well]

Sorry Jinh, but it looks like our precious Bush IS doing the right thing. As far as painting Kerry in a bad light, he (Kerry) does that on his own...

Outsourcing The Myth

Interesting news from Silicon Valley Biz Ink on outsourcing. It's not the dreaded sucking sound of jobs being whisked off to India that we thought.

The in-depth Study found that global sourcing of computer software and services, while displacing some IT workers, actually benefits the U.S. economy and increases the number of U.S. jobs. According to Study findings, the U.S. economy has much to gain from global sourcing and an environment of free trade, open markets and robust competition. Benefits include job creation, higher real wages, higher real GDP growth, contained inflation and expanded exports resulting in increased economic activity.
Anybody got a problem with that? More jobs, better economy, free trade, not to mention the foreign companies that insource, ie hire U.S. workers. By the numbers, here's the benefits.
According to the Study, U.S. spending for offshore outsourcing of computer software and services is expected to grow at a compound annual rate of almost 26%, increasing from approximately $10 billion in 2003 to $31 billion in 2008. During the same period, total savings from the use of offshore resources will grow from $6.7 billion to $20.9 billion. Using offshore resources lowers costs and boosts productivity. As a result, inflation is lower, interest rates are lower, and economic activity is higher. The increased economic activity creates a wide range of new jobs, both in IT and other industries. While there are some dislocations that affect both industries and regions, the overall economy adjusts so that offshore IT outsourcing actually creates new jobs. Over 90,000 net new jobs were created in the U.S. through 2003. The number of net new jobs is projected to grow by 317,000 in 2008. The impact on U.S. jobs does vary by industry sector, with the major beneficiaries for the next five years being construction, transportation and utilities, education and health services, wholesale trade, and financial services.

Looks a lot better than what we've been expected to believe. I really do think Bush knows what he is doing with free trade. Works both ways and the number show it. Now what will the Dems do with this positive data?

[Don't]

forget the extremely hypocritical entertainment industry. How many tv shows, movies, and documentaries are now being made in Canada and elsewhere instead of the U.S.?

P.S. PK, why are you hiding behind the name "well"? Are you afraid of silly Jinh?

[Jinh]

LOL...

[PK...]

Hah... How stupid is this 207?? Two OH Seven, does your mommy know you are loose on the internet??

Hey, Jinh... I'll see your LOL, and raise you, a ROFL...

Amazing I am two other posters, one in MA, and one in PA, and now I am a third spending a bundle for AOL, which I do not like at all, and am paying toll charges for the privilege???

Will say, though, that "maybe" if more folk in the US wanted to work, instead of just "make money", "perhaps" there would not be so much "outsourcing"...

But that is just my opinion, well, of course, mine and the 3 others I am supposed to be...

Still say this is not forum for politics...

;0))

PK

[Jinh]

So I take it then, according to <Well>, it looks like the Heinz Corp. is doing a very good job helping our economy...LOL

Geez, how hypocritical...

<<So why would Teresa HEINZ Kerry hang on to such a name if she had nothing to do with any o of the business? I find that very hard to believe.>>

You obviously didn't watch the interview with Teresa on 20/20 last night. Why don't some of you Bush lovers just try, even once, a news source other than FOX? You might really see a "Fair and Balanced" accounting of what's going on...

Jinh

[Simmerdown]

Jinny. Don't wear yourself out before the election. Lots of changes will happen between now and then. Don't lock yourself into just one liberal mindset, when there are so many silly liberal things you can champion.

Kerry is scarey.

[calmdown]

PK. Me thinks you doth protest too much.

[Jinh]

<<Still say this is not forum for politics...>>

I've decided to agree with you on that PK...but, remember, I have never started any thread that turned into a political debate...I just respond to some when I see fit...

Jinh

[why]

isn't this a forum for politics? Because it's the one subject where PK's loyal subjects don't kiss her ass? Paleez, it's the only topic where Jinh actually has the backbone to say what she really thinks.

[PK...]

Well, it is obvious no one can have a meaningful discussion here, if they want to, anyway...

The Trolls are out in force and seem bound and determined to take over the board...... Well, maybe they deserve it... LOL...

Have a good one, Jinh... I'm planting my 'maters, etc., tomorrow, and trying to stay cool... NO fair for this early in the year...

;0))

PK

[DKLA]

I still wanna know who's gonna come clean on the UFO's???

LOL!

Have a good Saturday eve all! I look forward to SNL; bet they have a funny political skit tonite!

[Well]

Just for the record - I am NOT PK (not that there is anything wrong with being PK - I enjoy her posts and humor). I DID watch the interview with Teresa Heinz Kerry. I am not a hypocrite with regard to Heinz Corp. since I didn't post the original post and, quite honestly, am not familiar with that particular fact or non-fact but, if it is true and Kerry says he is against outsourcing, then HE is the hypocrite (I'm a firm believer in what is mine is his and what is his is mine in a marriage). First time in my memory and in my older relatives' memories that a political party has chosen to bash the president during a war. The Dems have set a new precedent...

PS I have absolutely no desire to "take over this board" or any other board.

[DKLA]

LOL! Yep, SNL should be a hoot tonite!!

[If Kerry]

does win the presidency, the first order of business will be to change the title of "first lady" to "first broad".

[DKLA]

hahahahaha.......... Should be a good show tonite!!

[Jinh]

Ain't it late to be plantin' 'taters, PK? We always got ours in by late April...

By the by, PK and I have had our differences on quite a few things, and I don't think either of us ever had a problem stating how we felt or feel...we've always delt with them civilly...PK knows how to handle things very diplomatically - I've learned quite a bit from her over the years...

At any rate, I'm no ass kisser. The plain truth is, I like PK, like it or not...

Jinh

[DKLA]

As do I.....mucho respect!

But I refuse to get in a _issing contest about candidates!

[Jinh]

At this point, DKLA, I don't even know enough about Kerry...And God knows I follow my 'stuff' pretty well.

There are many a Dem. that say they would vote for a dog before they would vote for Bush...I have to admit, there are some days I feel that way too. LOL

Jinh

[DKLA]

like Al Sharpton once said and I thought it funny; stay out the bushes!

OK, whatever happens is meant to happen; we have to give it up to the Gods.

And vote.........

[Jinh]

<<if it is true and Kerry says he is against outsourcing, then HE is the hypocrite (I'm a firm believer in what is mine is his and what is his is mine in a marriage). First time in my memory and in my older relatives' memories that a political party has chosen to bash the president during a war. The Dems have set a new precedent...>>


I'm sorry, but your whole statement above goes beyond illogical...just makes no sense whatsoever to me.

Jinh

P.S. You must be very young, (or have a very poor memory) because Nixon went down during Vietnam...and it wasn't just 'The Dems.' who brought him down...his own party wanted him out as well.

[Jinh]

Also, when you think about it...It is during war-time that most presidents have faced criticism and scrutiny..

Jinh

[DKLA]

It IS a tough year.

[Well]

I thought Viet Nam was the Dem's war. I thought Nixon went down because of Watergate. During war, our congressional leaders generally speak as one voice. There will always be people for and against every issue but, during war, our congress has always very carefully shown support for our president. (I am sure this has been very difficult for many a congressman but most informed people would agree that we try to show unity.)

[PK...]

You and I have the same recollection of the VietNam War, Well... I don't know about you, but I was a young adult when it began, so I remember it well. And I remember the relief when we were finally able to get out of there..

Ah, yes, Watergate... That was the watershed moment, IMO, when the "Press" began believing their "own" press and decided they were all powerful, and decided what the public "deserved" to know - which was/is way more than was/is good for "us"... (Also IMO)

Shoot, our president is barely nothing more than a figurehead (Politics by Polling), and our congress is so gridlocked and porkbellied, it's a wonder anything gets done... But they can surely spend money! OK, so that was a bit of an exageration....

Jinh... I've planted some things, but the soil here is pretty slow to warm up... As it turned out, I could have planted MUCH earlier this spring, lol, but I didn't, so then we had to wait for the ground to dry out from this last series of rains... (Then it takes a bit of "gentle" nagging to get hubby to chop it up for me...)

For the record, Well... You are not one of the "Trolls" I was referencing..... It's that snotty pair of 207s...

;0))

PK

[Terry K]

It seems that one may only discuss politics if PK has had her say, and the 207's agree with her.

If the 207's dare to broach the subject, or to disagree with PK,s love of Kelly they are "BAD"..However if they agree with PK they are "good". So silly.

Jinh, I applaud you for standing by your ideals, you have great insight into politics, and are very well informed.

I agree with you about this administration being wrong secretive and arrogant. Too, too many lives have benn lost or ruined for a war that was based on lies.

Happy Mother's Day to all.

[And just]

where does PK say anyone has to agree with her? Seems to me like PK has never asked anyone to agree with her on any subject. Now that you've gotten a penny for your thoughts, you can keep the change.

[To Unjust]

You are so sweet to respond in such a nice manner. Just disagree with your Pk, if you wish to prove my point.

[And Just]

Am assuming you made a purposeful mistake by addressing me as "unjust". I try to be as sweet as I can be especially to folks like you who fully deserve it. Please point out to me where someone didn't agree with PK and her wrath came down on them. I do read all the posts and I still say "keep the change".

[PK...]

LOL...

How funny is this...

Thank you 207 for proving MY point...

The discussion here has been very civil, except for YOUR posts, which are simply bitter personal attacks... Isn't that what you accuse me of?

I will draw you a picture of why I don't think it's a good idea to discuss politics here, since you don't seem to be able to figure it out for yourself...

It's because we have many board friendships that cross political lines. I know I don't like to feel animosity towards my friends, and I hope they feel the same.. Nothing like a good old rip roaring political argument to rile people up...

There are plenty of fireworks on this board without adding the additional political tension... Most of us who post regularly know where the others stand, and we also know for a fact, that nothing any of us say will change the mind of the other..

It was YOU who drug me into this discussion in the first place, Terry K/207 Troll, in case you have forgotten, with your assinine accusation that I was "Well"..

I was perfectly happy to not get involved, but you seem bound and determined to call me out.. Sorry, I'm really not interested..

Why don't you give it a rest and go look for your belly-button...

Re wrath... VG&L excepted, of course...

;0))

PK wondering if you realize you misspelled "Terry"... Daughter's name is spelled "Terri"... Something else you need to watch along with your syntax...

[Jinh]

Firstly, I don't think PK has a problem with those in disagreement with her...heck, I've even seen her agree with V..,g or l on rare occasions! LOL
She states her opinions openly - although I sense she tries to 'hold her tongue' as much as humanly possible when it comes to politics - lol...

Now, I love politics...I came from a very politically-charged family. Though they were not especially in the fore-front (my dad was a city commissioner, one of my nephews works for the Democratic Party and I and my sister have worked on several campaigns), that's it.

At any rate, this is a free-for-all-board, and though it may not be the best place, it's where I call home (internet wise). Also, it is an election year - and there is much going on - if people don't want to discuss it fine - just as I never look at O/T threads about 'Survivor', 'A.I.', etc...

One more thing, I know where MsPiggie, Skeeter, PK (she's a little different), etc., stand - I still like them, and I hope they me. It shouldn't change how you feel about the basic person inside - just different ways of seeing things...(and many times that is good)..

Jinh

[Well]

I agree with PK's and Jinh's posts. Most of my friends are of the same political persuasion as I am (mainly, Republican with a little Dem thrown in) -- now, my family are diehard Democrats (the old straight ticket). I really don't like to argue politics. I just hate to see our President bashed and I felt that way when Clinton was in office, too. I think it is a bad reflection on America and I do wish our newspeople would give politicians a break on their personal lives. I'm afraid we will get to a point where no one will want to run because they may be afraid they'll get called out on fourth grade "you show me yours and I'll show you mine" stuff. In their zeal to have "breaking news" I feel they are hurting more than helping. I have seen enough prisoner abuse pics, too - we apologized, let's punish the guilty, and move on. Too many are trying to make that "political", too.

[Jinh]

<<<I just hate to see our President bashed and I felt that way when Clinton was in office, too.>>>

Well, <Well>...I have to disagree with you on a few points you made..

First of all, in a non-democracy, the press is stifled, and the people are not allowed to know what is going on - a very bad thing - no?

I feel what makes this such a great country, is that we do have the freedom of press and the right to civil protest...

I like this quote: "I believe political dissent is an essential component of a healthy, viable democracy, and that it should not be discouraged or treated as suspect by government as a whole or by any individual representing government".

At any rate, that's how I feel...

Nothing, but Nothing, irks me more than someone telling me what I should or shouldn't say or think or feel...

Jinh

[gailsie]

<<Nothing, but Nothing, irks me more than someone telling me what I should or shouldn't say or think or feel...>>

Very interesting . . . Would you say that only applies to opinions and posts about politics?

Lord knows "we've" been told ad nauseum about "our" opinions of all things Kelly.

I'm with you, jinh, nothing irks me more than someone telling me what I should or should't say or think or feel...

gailsie, proud Bush supporter and not afraid to say it!

:)

[Why do]

Gailsie and V have to make every thread about them?

[Susan]

With all due respect to PK, as I know her heart is in the right place, I really enjoy the political threads here. I appreciate that we are all big girls and can banter back and forth about controversial topics without any damage being done to the internet friendships. I don't contribute much, if anything, to the political threads, but I do enjoy reading them.

[Jinh]

Ahhh...good point, gailsie...

And I've thought a lot about this...

To me, the problem with you, V.. and l is your never-ending digging, gabbing, etc., of Kelly...

It's one thing to say "I don't like Kelly" and stand 'pat with that'. It's entirely another thing to dig and dig, day after day, about every little flaw you see. Heck if I did that about Bush - well, geez, that's all I'd be doing 24/7 LOL

It's fine with me that you're a Bush supporter...and good heavens, there's no reason to "be afraid to say it"...

Jinh

[lmroland]

<<why do gailsie and V have to make every thread about them?>>

Good question!

Maybe they don't get enough attention at home.

<<To me,the problem with you,V..and l is your never-ending digging gabbing,etc.,of Kelly...>>

Honestly Jinh,....do you think they'll EVER 'get it'?lol...I don't.

[gailsie]

lm, deal with the facts in the post; you lose your argument when you get personal . . . Debate 101

neither jinh nor I made anything personal; you unfortunately, did.

what else is new?

[Will you]

Ever get over the impulse to attack their every post and follow with an immediate post bad mouthing them?

They are good people, maybe you are too, but you sure are nasty about their every opinion. They don't ask you to agree with them, so live and let live.

[does]

lmroland ever contribute an original thought about Regis or Kelly or Live to this board? I didn't think so. it's always a personal attack on certain posters, or a kiss-ass post supporting PK.

[lmroland]

Oh good God!
Give me a break!!!....didn't realize gailsie,that you were ONLY talking to Jinh.lol(your debate is quite laughable,especially coming from you)

<<will you>>

Will YOU mind your own business then??I could not care less if 'they' agree with me or not.Now shouldn't you be out enjoying your Mother's Day with your children?

[lmroland]

Rofl here "does"!...thanks.

You know you can always choose to 'ignore'.

I'm heading out to dinner with my family.You all have a good evening and don't let some particular posts here ruin it for you!--lol

PK..I'll kiss ya later!(oops,I mean "catch" ya later!hehehe!)

[As .,Long]

As you are gone, no one will ruin MOM's day. Enjoy your dinner.

[leave lmr]

alone. She isn't exactly the brain trust of the group.

[207]

is the only way I can post.What is all your excuses???Seems to me that you are all a bunch of kiddies hiding behind a name.~
I guess you don't want your group to see exactly how immature and nasty you all really are.Then you have the gall to talk about lm's brain?????~~~Too funny~~~~~!!!!

[207]

well~~~who is the brain trust of the group?you must mean pk,since you all are so jealous of her to begin with.~~~

[Scuse Me]

If it is the only way you can post, why are you hiding your user name?

[PK...]

Wow... OK... Do you have to post from 207 to be allowed a voice here today???

Hey, Y'll go ahead and talk politics... That may be the only safe discussion... I stand corrected... Enjoy yourselves...

Jinh... I noted I misread your earlier post... I said "'maters" and you said "'taters"... Lalalala... You probably thought I was NO farmer, waiting for the ground to warm up to plant 'taters... I think they plant them here in early april, and as early as St' Pat's day... Though seed potatoes are still available in the stores...

Hmm... Gailsie, forgive me, but didn't you make it personal when you called attention to yourself, and YOUR views about Kelly??? That sounds pretty personal to me... Considering it's a political thread...

BUT... LOL... Though there is probably nothing else we agree on, so,Go Bush...

Oh, and Jinh, LOL, if you did, indeed, rag on Bush day in and day out, as you mentioned, I would "virtually" be forced to cram your "virtual" head down that "virtual" "industrial toilet" we have heard so much about of late, and "virtually" flush... LOL...

Hey, for the record, the original post is a crock, anyway... Check out Snopes.com for Heinz... It blows holes in that theory, but also check out Snopes for "John Kerry"... There are some truths, and some fibs, regarding the blurbs finding their way to your inboxes... True of Bush as well...

Lmroland, and everyone else... Have a great evening...

;0))

PK grilling lamb chops... It's my day and I choose to do that..

[Mackey]

Well, ..'Politics make strange bedfellows' Quite true!! I am completely with Jinh in my political thinking. I am aware that my cyber friends have an opposite opinion. DO I think less of them?? Of course not, I am proud of them for stating their beliefs, albeit I could NEVER agree with them

Jinh, Kerry will make a good President. Do not be put off by the Bush adds that say he vacillates in his Senate votes.. He has been there for 20 years, and if he didn't learn along the way..'when you know better, you do better' then one could have concerns.

Bush remains dogmatic in 'staying the course' despite monumental failure in his policies, he is too arrogant to say he has made mistakes, or he has lied about WMD.s, and terrorist activity in Iraq.

The results of this arrogance is seen today, with failure in his handling of the war, and so many lives lost, as well as respect from the whole world almost non existant and yet he continues in the same pattern, unwilling to see the vile truth saying he didn't know about the atrocities... well if not, why not? .. he is the commander in chief. Kerry could have jumped in and politicized over this terrible event, but he has shown restraint, a good trait, in a leader.

[gailsie]

<<<Maybe they don't get enough attention at home.>>>

The above statement is "getting personal" imo.

Of course MY thoughts about Kelly are MINE just as your thoughts about Kelly are YOURS.

No need to pass judgment on peoples' homes or families and the attention or lack therof just because you don't agree with my politics. lol

Hi Mackey :)
Beautiful day here on the beach. Hope you enjoyed your day too!

[DKLA]

How about the new pics released? The one(s) with a dog preparing to attack a naked man......it is sickening.

IMO, Bush and his cohorts need to go. There, I said it.

[207]

lm was answering a question that was asked here by someone...nothing personal about that.

I am not hiding my username.It's Veronica L.There,I said it.Are you happy now?Did it make a difference in your life?

[207]

Just kidding here.
Actually it is Kendal.Did you all miss me?

[Mackey]

Hi Gailsie, We had rain all day till about an hour ago, but it was still a beautiful day. Got lots of 'plunder' from lots of kids, and all are well happy and productive. Lucky me.!!

Did you have a wonderful day? Bet you did. Took bath early so I can settle down for Survivor finale.

Hear Rupert is favored to win.

[Gawd]

Whoever said no politics is right. What a mess this thread is.

[207]

Good, "Gawd"...then maybe you will take a hike?????~~~tata.

[Jinh]

I'm going to address this first:

<<Oh, and Jinh, LOL, if you did, indeed, rag on Bush day in and day out, as you mentioned, I would "virtually" be forced to cram your "virtual" head down that "virtual" "industrial toilet" we have heard so much about of late, and "virtually" flush... LOL...>>>

Is that a threat??? What freakin' bee got into your bonnet?

Hey, I'll take you on any day baby...And you will be the one on the toilet end...

Jinh

[Jinh]

<<Whoever said no politics is right. What a mess this thread is.>>

Hey, don't blame politics for the demise of this thread...don't most of the most benign end up this way?

Jinh

[DKLA]

LOL!

[Jinh]

<<How about the new pics released? The one(s) with a dog preparing to attack a naked man......it is sickening.>>

DKLA - Now they've got pictures of wounds inflicted by the dogs...What an enormous mess..

..as if our PR wasn't bad enough...Now we're receiving global condemnation...Great job Bushies!

Jinh

[Jinh]

Hi my 'strange bedfellow' Mackey...lol

I agree with your entire post - Kerry will be fine...he's just taking his time in getting it all together...

Heck, as it stands right now in the polls, Kerry is even or better with Bush - and nobody knows squat about him! LOL

Jinh

[DKLA]

OMG........and they committed sodomy (allegedly) on the other prisoners......not something Bush will want to deal with for sure. War sucks and what about Bin Laden???

[Jinh]

To hell with bin Laden, DKLA...

Now, thanks to all of this, we're gaining the wrath of Two Billion Muslims...not to mention our status and image with our former allies and even neutral countries throughout the world.

It's a very bad situation, but I don't feel that it's irreversible if we (the administration) hold accountable and punish those responsible...

JMO

Jinh

[Jinh]

DKLA -

One thing that was very ominous in the proceedings Friday, was that Rumsfeld said something to the effect "there will be much more to come, it will be much worse than what we've already seen"...


Yikes!

Jinh

[DKLA]

It WILL be rough going. Terrible.

[PK...]

Gee, Jinh...

I was joking, for gosh sakes... I know you wouldn't do that, but it would be the same to me as the ragging on Kelly you compared it too... That was nothing more than a bit of silliness... I thought you would take it in good humor, after your statements about the people being the same, and all...

Wow! I rest my case about the politics... I wasn't upset or mad or threatening anything. I'd say the bee is in your bonnet...

Have a good one...

;0))

PK

[Scoops]

Being from MA...and having voted for Kerry in the past for Senator, I must say that I like him as Senator.....I feel his seniority and connections make him quite effective for our state.



Please let him remain in that office.

lol.

...as for the presidency, he certainly would be better than some of the other Democrats that ran.....I don't think he will do any real harm.....however, he has huge credibility issues...he is an opportunist of the highest order, and an elitist as well.

I will be voting Republican for president for the first time in my life. Even though I know that my own state would benefit greatly if Kerry were elected. I have a lot of respect for GW, and the solid, steady manner in which he has handled every unbelievable event that has come his way. I didn't vote for him, but I am glad he is our president.

[Skeeter]

Scoops ~ I believe you and I are on the same wavelength....although I have declared a party for primaries, I do not vote along party lines. I look to who I believe has and will lead our country along the right path.

That being said, I, too, will be pushing my chad all the way through for George W. Bush!!! :)

Skeeter

[Scoops]

Just wanted to say the UFO thing cracked me up DK....saw it on another thread, and now on this one. lol Wasn't expecting it either time!

[~MG~]

Scoops and Skeeter,I am on the same page as the both of you. GWB will definitely be getting my vote.

[lisaac]

<<<<<<<Oh, and Jinh, LOL, if you did, indeed, rag on Bush day in and day out, as you mentioned, I would "virtually" be forced to cram your "virtual" head down that "virtual" "industrial toilet" we have heard so much about of late, and "virtually" flush... LOL... >>>>>

Good lawrd, was that supposed to be funny?

Scoops, I love reading your "political" posts--you really write calmly and intelligently. And I agree with you 99% of the time-- lol

[Cassandra]

lisaac...why don't you let PK and Jinh resolve their differences. Always sticking your big nose where it doesn't belong!

[Danielle]

she thrives on this stuff.
Dani~

[shelseeker]

I did not read all the posts, but I would recommend the ones of you who keep bringing up unemployment as an issue, check a few facts. What was the unemployment rate when clinton (purposely typed) was around and what is it now?

And those pictures from Iraq prison, yes they are horrible, but they are the same few pictures being shown, different views. The people responsible for the above acts will pay the price.
I remember when the two helicopters pilots, that were shot down and captured, talk about being beaten though the streets with sticks, where was the outcry from the media then? And what happened to their guards?

[Unregist]

This is a prayer request for a man in urgent need of prayer. I'm asking you TODAY, please, take a moment and pray for this man. He is in a situation that few people find themselves in. He is criticized by many people, at every turn, and few people have taken the time to thank him for the things that he has done for them.


A lot of people know this man. But, few people know the extent of his situation. We're quick to criticize when we've never walked in their shoes and we're slow to pray that God will show them which way to go.

So, I'm asking you to stop at some time, TODAY, and pray for this man. He needs our urgent prayers that God give him the guidance he needs to get through this situation. This man hasn't asked me to do this. But, I feel led to do so and I'm sure that he appreciates all your prayers.

I have attached a photo of this man. Look at it. Some of you may recognize him. Please pray for him. Feel free to pass this on to anyone else that will pray for him. Trust me, if you were facing what he is facing, you'd want people praying for you!

Thanks

(Photo of OUR President George W. Bush inserted here,TVT won't allow photo)

No matter what party you support, this man is our President right now and needs your help in prayers.
This country belongs to all of us. IN GOD WE TRUST

[DKLA]

Thanks, Scoops! After Roswell, it is alleged that they moved the bodies and craft to Wright Patterson Air Force base here in Ohio....LOL!

We are not alone! (smile)