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Susan
12-14-2004, 04:36 PM
...from the NY Daily News....man, this makes Mark sound like a total a$$. What a hothead....either that or he'd had a few too many. I can see defending a friend, but come on....guess he didn't expect to be reading about it three years later....

Mad Dog over
Willie soap opera


In the weeks leading up to Willie Randolph's coronation at Shea yesterday, both Mike Francesa and Chris (Mad Dog) Russo expressed uncertainty over whether the new Mets manager would continue the tradition of making a weekly paid appearance on their WFAN show.
Both Francesa and Russo said Randolph, whom they characterized as "sensitive," wasn't exactly enamored of them. Randolph, they said, was prickly over criticisms they had dumped on him over the years. These critiques were delivered long before FranDog unequivocally stated that Randolph would not be their first choice to manage the Mets.

This criticism did not fall on deaf ears. During GM Omar Minaya's manager search, one well-embedded Mets mole said all the Randolph bashing on the airwaves had both Fred and Jeff Wilpon concerned about hiring Randolph "in this environment." Minaya stood resolute in spite of the talkies' critiques.

And yet outside of the last few weeks, it's hard remembering any harsh criticism FranDog ever heaped on Randolph. Outside of examining some of his decisions to send runners home when he was the Yankees' third base coach, any FranDog "rips" of Randolph were mild compared to the diss they've dumped on others.

So, maybe there was something else working here. Something either Francesa or Russo experienced telling them Randolph had problems with them. There was at least one incident.

It happened over three years ago, Oct. 20, 2001, at Yankee Stadium during the eighth inning of Mariners-Yankees ALCS Game 3 (the Bombers lost, 14-3). Russo was sitting downstairs behind home plate with his father, Tony, and two other friends. Francesa was not with Russo's party.

Two people - a man and a teenage girl - walked up to Russo and verbally accosted him. The man was the actor Mark Consuelos, a close friend of Randolph's. Consuelos is married to Kelly Ripa, co-host of ABC's "Live With Regis (Philbin) and Kelly." The woman was one of Randolph's daughters.

On Wednesday night, I asked Russo about this incident. He confirmed it and related the experience.

"I thought they (Consuelos and Randolph's daughter) were coming to get an autograph so I welcomed them," Russo said. "The next thing I know they were both going nuts about how Mike and I killed Willie as a third base coach and how we know nothing about baseball. It was nasty. The language was bad enough that a security person came up.

"I told the security guy to leave them alone. They had a right to talk," Russo continued. "But I didn't realize Consuelos was going to keep going on and on and on. He got right in my face. Then they both started in with stuff like, 'What the (blank) do you know about baseball?' Then they were saying: 'You're ugly, you have a big nose.' It was bad. My father had to watch all this. This went on for about seven minutes. They finally left. It was a weird situation."

At the time, Russo didn't know the identity of the two people who had confronted him. He found out through Suzyn Waldman, whose friends saw the incident. Russo said he did not make an issue of the episode during "The Mike and the Mad Dog" show because it would have amounted to knocking Randolph "for no reason."

Still, did the confrontation ultimately lead Russo to be so vehement in his opposition to Randolph becoming Mets manager?

"No," Russo told me. "Absolutely not."

"But look, I'm not going to sit here and tell you I'm not human. This has bothered me for a while," Russo said. "This particular situation shows a sensitivity Willie has with criticism and it should worry you if you are a Mets fan."

Yesterday, Randolph was interviewed by FranDog. He said he had "never had a problem" with the talkies. Francesa alluded to the episode with Randolph's "family."

"I had nothing to do with that," Randolph said. "You think I sicced them on you, Dog?"

On Wednesday night, Russo said he didn't believe Randolph had instigated the confrontation. But at some point after the verbal throw-down, Russo believes Randolph was informed of exactly what had happened.

"And you can make an argument Willie could have contacted me after it happened and hashed things out," Russo said. "It's not like I'm hard to find."

Once the season starts, Randolph will know where to find Russo and Francesa, each and every week. He will follow in a long line of Mets managers who get paid to talk.

Randolph will answer the questions.

And there is no doubt the friends of Willie Randolph will be listening - listening very carefully.

"It's time to move on," Russo said. "I'm very willing to let bygones be bygones."

Let's see if this Fiesta of Love is still cooking in July.

gailzee
12-14-2004, 04:52 PM
It seems that Mark has never learned that invaluable lesson . . .

uno, dos, tres, cuatro . . .

<<<guess he didn't expect to be reading about it three years later....>>>

Yikes! very embarassing.

But you never know, what with The Great Raid coming out soon <wink> maybe the publicity will be good for the movie.

Hi S & G..
12-14-2004, 05:01 PM
...it's V..


<<<But you never know, what with The Great Raid coming out soon <wink> maybe the publicity will be good for the movie.>>>

Do you think? lol



"The Mike and the Mad Dog" show is pretty good....it was funny to hear Reege likes them too and seems to listen/watch often. (I prefer watching instead of listening...<wink>)

DKLA
12-14-2004, 05:05 PM
qautro

sinko

lol

PK...
12-14-2004, 05:18 PM
Old stuff is being regurgitated, I see...

This is the second time in just a couple of months that this has been dredged up... I guess it's the only negative anyone could find on Willie, and he had nothing to do with the incident in question...

Curious this incarnation has been updated to include a retelling "last Wed.".... I don't recall the first telling had anything to do with the Mets, but of course I could be wrong about that...

But I do KNOW that the following was included in the earlier article, so it is definitely a regurgitation an older story based on second hand hearsay (friends of a friend identified Mark and Willie's daughter)- and re-dressed as fresh news...

<<Yesterday, Randolph was interviewed by FranDog. He said he had "never had a problem" with the talkies. Francesa alluded to the episode with Randolph's "family."

"I had nothing to do with that," Randolph said. "You think I sicced them on you, Dog?">>

Nothing like a one sided rendition of a three year old incident regurgitated twice and passed off as new... And perhaps Frandog's memory is not that sharp, either...

We do know Mark and Willie have been close friends for a long time, so is is certainly plausible... But I wasn't there, were you?

;0))

PK

3 years?
12-14-2004, 05:34 PM
A three year old story that Susan thinks puts Mark in a bad light. Geez, the Kelly bashers are getting more desperate than usual. lol
Mike and Mad Dog can sure dish it out on a daily basis,(like some others we know-lol) but THEY sound like the overly sensitive ones instead of Willie. This was the first time a sports fan got in their faces for the crap they pull? I don't think so....
At any rate, good for Mark and Willie's daughter for calling them on the carpet about a friend and father.

lisaaaaaac
12-15-2004, 01:20 AM
What a hoot!

I've personally always thought there's a lot about Mark we "don't know about". He strikes me as very moody and difficult in "real life". Sooooooo many pics that are taken of him catch him with a scowl on his face, unless he realizes his pic is being taken......

very interesting, s, thanks.

teedoto1
12-15-2004, 03:15 AM
Hi L...I think Mr.Ripa has some temper issues. Didn't Kelly tell a story awhile back about him going off about a parking spot??? I've always noticed when he sub's for Reege...he's a bit "short"... pardon the pun...lol, with Kelly?? Seems like it wouldn't take much to tick him off!!

lisaaaaaac
12-15-2004, 04:11 AM
I know, I agree.

As far as the Great Raid, I don't think it is ever going to be released--there is a story in the post today re: Harvey Weinstein and it says:



".........To make matters worse, yesterday Disney announced that when the Weinstein brothers' contracts are up, "things will change." All projects have been put on hold or canceled."


It's very rare that a movie is put on hold for 4 years, anyway, isn't it????

PK...
12-15-2004, 05:26 AM
First...

Kelly did not tell that story, TeeDot... It was in a gossip column and reported here... (also as hearsay) So, I guess that is good enough sourcing for you to believe it...

Hah, Lisaaaaac... Yes, I would think it would be rare for a movie to be in the can for 4 years, though not unheard of, I'm sure... What movie are you talking about, though? Cause it's not the Great Raid...

Evidently you are as good at addition as you are the rest of your self professed talents...

LOL, perhaps you are so anticipating how bad Mark will be in The Great Raid, it just seems like 4 years? LOL...

Watta hoot...

;0))

PK wondering why the "truth" is in such short supply here...

Lucie
12-15-2004, 05:39 AM
PK on alert again, just sitting and waiting for a derogatory statement about Mark or Kelly. You make Kelly proud and others vomit or is it the other way around it would give Kelly another excuse to vomit.

PK...
12-15-2004, 06:00 AM
You bet, "lucie"...

I am ever vigilant to correct misquotes, mistatements and lies...

Since you seem to take issue everytime I contradict someone, you must be (1) in favor of lies or (2) a liar yourself or (3) all of the above...

My vote is for "3"...

Have a nice day...

;0))

PK

lisaaaaaac
12-15-2004, 06:17 AM
oh, my...what a hoot.....

However long it's been "on hold" there's a reason for it. <wink>

Norma C
12-15-2004, 06:19 AM
Lucie, You hit a home run, you got PK.

When she calls you names, and wishes you a good day, it means you won. Congragulations.

PK...
12-15-2004, 06:33 AM
Hahah, Lisaaaaaac... Thank YOU...

I didn't know it was a game with winners and losers... My, my, my... Some of us come here to simply talk about the show and have conversations about other things...

At least you have finally admitted your motivation for all the nasty crap you post here... Pretty childish, doncha think?

So, let's see... How does this game go, again? You spew nastiness until you are called a name, and then you win?? ROFL.... Lisaac, all I can say is that you must win an awful lot...

Curious that anyone would consider being insulted a "good thing"... Calling Dr. Phil... ROFL.... Phil, Hell, Calling Dr. Freud...

;0))

PK

Oh, yeah, have a nice day... <wink>

lisaaaaac
12-15-2004, 06:59 AM
huh??????????????????

bdsma
12-15-2004, 07:57 AM
"....PK wondering why the "truth" is in such short supply here..."

um...I think all the criminals stole it....

(thinking the TRUTH sets you FREE) *giggles

teedot01
12-15-2004, 08:08 AM
P.K...You're wrong, AGAIN!! I remember KELLY telling the story on LIVE about her and Mark travelling to the Hamptons for a party. Some guy took Mark's spot and it ticked him off and he lost it!! It's not hearsay as YOU would like to believe nor did I read it in the rags. Geez....

Susan
12-15-2004, 08:36 AM
That story was in the NY Daily News last month, but the incident happened three years ago.

Lisa, I was wondering what was up with The Great Raid so I went to Miramax's website but for the date it just says "2004". That had to have been very expensive to make....wish they'd just release it already. They have a few others that are ready to go but just say "Coming Soon"....

Lucie
12-15-2004, 08:47 AM
PK now you are not only the vocabulary police but now are the misquote police my you do wear many hats. By the way does PK stand for Pathetic Kelly. lol <wink, wink>

PK...
12-15-2004, 09:21 AM
LOL, I see the "Borg" is alive and thriving and assimilating minds at a frantic pace... It seems I always have a Troll on my tail after I make valid points... Wonder why that is? Nothing of substance to rebut with?

TeeDot...

Golly, I must be the wrongest person in the whole world... I completely missed that "Party" report and I completely missed Kelly saying Mark "Lost it".... Though I specifically remember a parking space incident in the Hamptons because of the "fire fight" that went on here afterwards...

The story Kelly told was they were going to the beach with a car full of kids and beach stuff... They waited for about 15 - 20 minutes in the hot car for the guy who was leaving a spot to load up... He dawdled a lot... Mark got impatient and "suggested" the guy speed it up a bit...

Kelly also said if she had been driving, they would still be sitting in the HOT car waiting for the guy to load and leave ...

The Hampton's Gossip blurb (posted here) was that Mark blocked the exit holding one of the kids in his arms to prevent the guy from leaving the parking lot until Mark finished telling him how the cow ate the cabbage...

The Gossip column referenced an anonymous tip (what else!), which makes it "hearsay"... That incident was hashed out here to such an extent that some even suggested Mark was putting his child in danger...

So, yes Kelly did tell a story about a parking place, but NO, it did NOT refer to a "party", and she did NOT say that Mark went "off", in fact my recollection is that she said he was respectful during the confrontation... (Of course that is subject to definition, isn't it...)

I stand by my post, and that it was an unsubstantiated gossip blurb that he went "off" on the driver... That is not to say it didn't happen, but it is also not "proof" it did... And it could have been highly exagerated as most stories get after subsequent tellings... (As proven here time and again.)

;0))

PK aka Pretty Kewl <wink, wink>

PK...
12-15-2004, 09:31 AM
Susan...

In addition to the Miramax/Disney kerfuffle, the director said that the movie needs to do well overseas as well as here at home. The current climate for a US war movie overseas is pretty poor right now...

A reference to the Iraq war and our current political situation, do you think? I guess a lot more goes into releasing a movie than we would suppose...

I also saw an unspecified time in 2005 listed as the release date. Another site is still touting Feb. 15... That is probably no longer valid since the Miramax site is so out of date...

;0))

PK

wizzywoo
12-15-2004, 09:37 AM
yes, Kelly did tell a story about an incident in a parking lot about him going off on someone. Happened in the Hamptons last summer. Also, I know someone who sat behind him at a sporting event about 3 yrs ago, and he was arrogant and rude. All the guy tried to do was say hello and he was was just too high and mighty for that! But, he comes off that way IMO.

bdsma
12-15-2004, 09:46 AM
um...if they don't release this movie "the GREAT RAID"

it probably be a movie called "the LIMP INVASION".....................

teedoto1
12-15-2004, 07:18 PM
My goodness P.K what the hec is the difference?? Kelly told the story on Live about Mark getting ticked waiting for a parking spot...party, beach party, kids in the car....whatever!!! I remeber her talking about it....I didn't read about the story....that's what YOU assumed, and you were wrong!!

PK...
12-16-2004, 04:57 AM
LOL, TeeDot...

Before it was "you are wrong AGAIN". NOW it's "what the hec is the difference??" (But I am still wrong, LOL)

Let's see... What's the difference? Hmm... The facts are straight - could that be the difference?

Whatever....

;0))

PK

Scoops
12-16-2004, 05:53 AM
Whatever the full truth may be, I think we can all agree that Mark has had several incidents, reported in several venues, and perhaps he does have some anger management issues. He does give off a certain "vibe".

The story Susan posted sounds believable enough to me...and it is current...it is concerning Randolph's newly appointed necessity of constant interaction with this Russo guy.....(hence they are referring to past grudges, in anticipation of more fights)......Also, why would they have any reason to name Mark, other than it WAS him that accosted them?..heck, they didn't even know who he was...and to me it has everything to do with Willie Randolph....his daughter was the foul mouthed teenager, wasn't she? If Willie let it all roll off his back, I am sure his daughter wouldn't get so worked up over it.

Mark is that you on post #6? lol

teedot01
12-16-2004, 07:26 AM
What the hec IS the difference P.K??? I mentioned something Kelly said a year or 2 ago on Live regarding Mark getting ticked about a parking spot in the Hampton's. So I wasn't, according to you...100% correct. Well, why don't ya just report me to the Pipa Police!!! Honestly, I was talking about a friggen "Parking" spot story...Not the cure for cancer!! Do you have to analize things to death?? Unbelievable!!! But, keep going...You seem to know every single detail about Kelly and Mark's life.

BTW, you are WRONG to assume anything about me, let alone what I supposedly read!!

Hi tee...
12-16-2004, 08:32 AM
...it's V..


<<<why don't ya just report me to the Pipa Police!!!>>>

rofl! Pipa Police.....lol



Yes, we can all agree, well some, that the little guy has a big attitude problemo.....not to mention his filthy mouth. My gosh, he can't control himself on national TV....lol



Hiiiiiiiiiiiiii Scoops!

teedot01
12-16-2004, 08:51 AM
Hi V and Scoops...Yep, Pipa Police....that's what's it come down to, according to MOI!!! LOL!

Mark seems to have a "Short" fuse....but, hold on.....I think I hear a siren Gal's....I'm outta here!!! LOL

Before I get thrown in the clinker....I do want to wish everyone a happy & safe holiday season!!

Scoops
12-16-2004, 08:52 AM
Hi V!!!!

Hi teedot and PK.....I remember Kelly telling the story too.

The gossip blurb came out just prior to Kelly's rendition...hers was mighty darn close to the paper's report...but, I would think she told a kinder, gentler version than the anonymous tipper (naturally)...also, just a guess.... If it was an incident without observable public confrontation, I find it odd that anyone would call it in to the paper.

Mark is a bit of a loose cannon....not out of control by any means, but unpredictable.

I am still wondering who's idea it was to approach Mr. Russo. Did Mark spot him and suggest it, or did he willingly follow a teenager over to harrass a man with his family and friends? yikes.

lisaaaac
12-16-2004, 09:00 AM
Hello girls.

aaaaah, teedot. You're learning fast. Pipa Police! Very funny!

The whole teenager thing has me confused, too. Did Mark actually act that way in front of a teenage girl and even worse encourage her to act that way too? Yikes!!

Scoops
12-16-2004, 09:09 AM
Hi Lisa......bizarre.....I had never heard this story until I read it today.

teedoto1
12-16-2004, 12:47 PM
LOL Lisac!!!

I agree Scoops, strange story!! It's one thing to stick up for your friends but Mark surely needs to lay off the ol' caffiene or brews, at least back then. I would have had them both tossed, espesially if he had gotten in my face. What a jerk!!